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You did not offend but terribly misinformed

Posted By: Annie M on 2007-03-27
In Reply to: I should have made my post more clear, sorry... - folks from the north and folks from deep south....

if you think most southerns are pro-life. So many people think of us as backwoodisy, barefoot, hauling moonshine, etc. I am not the exception at all, in fact I know 3 associates who have had abortions and I am well past 60 so mine before it was legal.... Not offended but please educate yourself, ok?


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Brook - you are the one misinformed
Circumcision isn't a necessary procedure. Smegma is natural and is there for a reason. It provides moisture and protects the glans. Removal of the foreskin exposes the glans and desensitizes it over time. Also, its a very traumatic experience for the baby. Did you have a look at the link in the article? Do have a look at the video inside.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Do-you-think-that-infant-male-circumcision-is-a-type-of-child-abuse

The poor child is crying so much and is obviously in pain, even though the doctor apparently had provided anesthesia. I think he says something like "it takes the edge of." Well, that means it doesn't take away the trauma of it. I coudn't even watch that - it was awful!!!
You are misinformed except the BCPs for the most part.
To the OP--have you been checked for declining beta hCG to make sure it is completely out of your system? With a D&C, I would imagine after this time that it would be less than 5, but stranger things have happened.

Anyway, There are many, many reasons for miscarriages not to survive, one of them being the baby having genetic issues incompatible with life. Women miscarry normal children as well because of abnormal anatomy in the uterus unknown by the mother, hormonal issues (namely low progesterone, but this remains controversial), an incompetent cervix, poor implantation, placental issues (the reason for my miscarriage), et cetera.

The lining thing? One of the ways BCPs work is to keep the lining down hormonally anyway before eventual shedding during the period. Therefore, there would be less buildup of the lining than would happen during messed up cycles where the lining may be full-blown developing but without the body letting it go. This is not good.

She has had miscarriages. She will now worry during her pregnancy because she knows what can happen no matter what anyone says. We cannot tell her not to worry; that is not helpful to her. That is trivializing losing her pregnancy and baby.
dear deenibeeni..you are misinformed
Circumcision is, as you mentioned in your above post, very hygenic. By removing the foreskin, a buildup of smegma is prevented. This is the main reason why circumcision is done. It should be actually done right in the first week after birth, because it is least painful when done early. It is done under anesthesia.

Genital mutilation done on women is not only 'cutting off the labia, it includes the removal of the clitoris, the part of the female body that causes foremost orgasm for a woman, causing her to become frigid.

This procedure is still done in some fundamental Muslim countries, but soon it will be forbidden, because this IS abuse.

How terribly sad.

I can feel your sadness and frustration.  It is so sad that a person has to resign to a marriage that is so miserable.  I divorced my husband after 15 years of abuse.  It has now been 22 years since I divorced him.  At my age, I do not want anyone else.  The very first week that I left, I finally was not angry over something terrible he had done or sad that I thought I could'nt get out. 


I hope you can find peace and happiness some day.


Not terribly superstitious, but...
I have dreams once in a while (couple times a year maybe) that tend to freak people out. I keep them to myself most times now but if something happens related to that dream, I say a little prayer.
Isn't it terribly sad that a guardian ad litem had to be sm
appointed in the first place? The baby doesn't know this guardian ad litem, right? Doesn't the baby know Howard to be her daddy?

I feel so ignorant in all of this - but it just can't get anymore confusing to me.

Okay. I'll shut up for now. This would make a great story line for my Y&R!
I know I will miss them terribly when they grow up - but sm
somehow I don't think that's the part I'll miss ;-)

I think I'll miss them needing me to help with things, miss tucking them in at night, watching them learn. I don't think I'll miss having to fuss at them - but you never know...lol
I am neutral on this but will say those circumstances where you were intimate were not terribly sexy
I don't see medical care in any way similar to sexy people dancing against each other in sexy ways ;-)
It might offend
Muslims. I have heard of Muslims taxi drivers who are refusing to transport people who are carrying alcohol of any kind. I also hear a talk show that is saying Muslims are demanding to have places to wash their feet in some of our airports, might be something religious?? I see Muslims can demand (and probably get) the daily prayers they are required to do, have the children do them in our schools and yet we have had to remove anything pertaining to church from our schools prior to now. We have let things go without a whimper and I do not know how things can be reversed now but sad state of affairs.
you did NOT offend hon!! That website....sm

You did nothing wrong - it's that website is what seems offensive - not the fact you supplied the link to Jewish entertainers/performers.  It *looks* innocent enough until one goes and checks out not only the website itself but the ISP/DNS ownership/registration/sponsorship.  And then to list the ADL (antidefamation league) under HATE GROUPS was the absolute straw -


I wrote them a letter all about my opinion of that site too!!! 


Have a GREAT evening!!! 


What's with pork? Who might that offend?
I agree with everything you said.  We bow to every whim in an effort NOT to offend people here, except for our own citizens! And christians...but I won't go there.  I'm not particularly fond of *Halloween* decorations, but do like to decorate for fall with hay and scarecrow, pumpkins, and that sort of stuff...
Why does this woman offend you so?
What did she do to you? I understand that you obviously do not agree with her getting involved in her own daughter's life but it is her daughter - not yours. I think you are taking her situation way too personally for whatever reason.

The fact is, it is her daughter and she SHOULD protect her and do everything within her means to do so. She never said she was going to break the law. I see nothing wrong with her asking this dude to get tested - if anything, it will get him away from her daughter!!!
oh no you didn't offend me
i just wish i could afford to spend that much in gas!!! that's awesome that you have that as a home; I bet you have a wonderful adventuresome life.
And it's not their fault you offend them.
But--this is another reason. It was very nicely explained, and yet the arguing continues. Sometimes you just need to state your opinion and move on. There are some you just won't win. Like this one--or the puppy mill one. Somtimes people just don't want to hear it, let alone hear it over and over again. Just step away from the situation.
I'm sorry, didn't mean to offend but why would anyone want sm
a purse or shoes that cost 800-1000 bucks??? holy cow that's a house payment, for something that will be out of style in a year. But that's just me...

Enjoy your stuff.
Funny story, please don't think I am trying to offend
When we finally told my 86yr old grandfather (a very old-fashioned man from a very smal town) that my cousin was marrying a black girl he was totally fine with it, Thank heavens! Then the next day another relative asked him how he felt about "John" marrying a black girl, and he started saying "Black? Black? I thougt they said blind". Once he finally realized what was actucally going on he was still fine with it. I say if you are happy, then please continue to be happy. There is just not enough happiness in this world right now.
Really didn't mean to offend. DD's friend SM
moved to a small town in NC and there were a family of Hoggs that were prominent in the town. When DD laughed, her friend said it was common name.

There are strange names associated with various parts of the country.

I still use ex-husband's name, which is Irish, and common in New York, but down where I live, people never heard ot it! Not the greatest name, but better than maiden name.
Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you, but i'm tired of sm
being "punched in the gut" by the Christian majority in this country. Just please accept that not everyone thinks that the Bible is, well, the literal word of God.

Yes, I believe in Karma and I live a moral life; I just don't have that "personal relationship" with your savior.

Again, sorry to offend; I just see the world differently.
Didn't do it to hope to offend....

There are enough piggy women out there to rival the men. I always find it amusing that women put down men so much, but leap at the chance to date them, marry them, look great for them, use their money, want to be treated with respect by them, but never look in the mirror at themselves. I, for one, have a fabulous man and am very proud to say it; he in turn has a fabulous woman!


Why would it offend me? And suggesting someone is depressed isn't a putdown anyhow. NM
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I meant, at a better salon. Hope that
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Oops! Hope I didn't offend you - my point was (sm)
that the more strict the parents are, the more rebellious the kids will be when the parents aren't around. In the past people always thought that "preacher's kids" were worse because they were raised so strictly. I think back then preachers were harder on their kids because they wanted them to project a perfect image.
You ead my response wrong, terribly wrong
I am trying to ask what does she think it will help, not being nasty- tell me and I will try this. I would stand on my head and gargle peanut butter if I thought it would help - I wanted to know why a letter? They are thumbing their noses at the courts - commanded to appear- I was there and they werent.
Doesn't offend me to hear Happy Holidays, Happy Hannuka...sm
or any way someone wants to greet me. As a basic rule, people use the greeting most comfortable to the speaker. What does burn my butt is when someone tries to tell me that my comfortable greeting of "Merry Christmas" is not appropriate. To those who are not concerned with my comfort, I have no concern for theirs.

Merry Christmas to all.
BAD idea! Terribly BAD idea!

This could not be worse of any idea.  People need to worry about their own bodies, not what other women do!  This is supposed to be the land of the free, but people are trying to turn it into the "the land of the free as long as you agree with me."  It's a medical procedure and no one else's business period!  For some women, it's a hard enough decision to make without having other people tell them how they should do it! 


If you do not believe in abortion...great, don't have one, but mind your own business and leave other people alone that need/want to have one!  Again, it's none of your business what someone else does. 


I don't have any children and don't want any.  While I always use birth control, that's not 100%, and if it failed, I certainly would get an abortion without hesitation.   I much rather have women get abortions than bring a child into the world that they don't want and mistreat or that they can't pay for and stick ME with paying for it!  There are enough leaches out there having kid after kid they can't pay for, and we tax payers are footing the bill.  Enough is enough already! 


How about all you people that but your nose into other people's business and don't want these women to have abortions pay my share of taxes too since you don't mind paying for all of these unwanted children!