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Don't you remember Ronald Reagan's stance on abortion? sm

Posted By: me on 2007-03-26
In Reply to: Unborn babies can't talk until they are given birth - and even then you're lucky if you get a googoo

It was "I'm PRO-CHOICE. If the unborn baby has a choice, I am PRO-CHOICE."




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Ronald Reagan
I remember the rumors, when I was in high school, that he was the antichrist (LOL), but what touched me was a story I saw on t.v. in recent years about how his proposal to Nancy went. Apparently, he said to her, "Let's get married!" She replied, simply, "Let's!" I thought it a great story (short and sweet). When you see footage of his speeches and they turn the camera to Nancy, you can see the admiration, awe, and love all over her.
some of us remember Reagan's ideas on AIDS too

Yep, hated Reagan, arms for contras....Oliver North scandal!!  Nancy was the president anyway!!!  I liked her far better than Ronald!



I remember when Nancy Reagan had a double mastectomy
and if I remember correctly, she was only diagnosed with it in 1 side. Not that you have cancer but I remember thinking and talking about her at that time I thought have a bilateral mastectomy was the way I would do in case of this ever happening, plus as aggressive chemo and whatever. Up to now, no further problem with her and I thought she made the right decision, just to be rid of the concern about the other breast eventually having to go back again. By the way, had hysterectomy, not for tumor but unending bleeding and probably best thing I ever did, vaginal route, really no down time, no pain (unlike before). Good luck with your decision.
A funeral is not the time or place for your friend to take a stance over something done 10 yrs ago.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but for your friend to even "think" about saying anything right now would be selfish and inconsiderate. He has had 10 years to deal with this issue. Why now??

I really tried to look at this issue from all angles and to be honest, just really don't "get it." I can't understand why anyone would feel the need to change a name they have had for at least 18 years. If my daughter changed her name, I would be absolutely devastated. Unless she was in the Witness Protection Program, I would continue to call her by the name she was given after 26 hours of labor and delivery. I'm not sure I could call her by another name even if I wanted to. It may not sound like much, but your friend is really asking a lot from people. Old habits DO die hard and this is so much more than just a habit.

If a friend of mine did this and it meant THAT much to her, I suppose I would try to make her happy. Without knowing all of the details, it's hard say for sure. One thing I do know is that if your friend is going to address this, he needs to wait for the appropriate opportunity. The timing he chooses could have a significant impact on the outcome.

Do you mind me asking why your friend did something this drastic?
Reagan
He was one of a kind, and we have not had a true Republican in office since him. He cut taxes yet brought in more government revenue. Imagine that. People had more of their own money to spend and they did. He didn't make up "tax credits" which is just another government way to take more of your money - Sure you can get some of it back but you have to do what the gov't says in order to get any of it back. It's a matter of control, coming from a gov't who cannot even control their own spending.

I know a lot here don't like W and in the end, my jury is still out on him but I did go to see his campaign in 2004 when he came to the AF base in Youngstown, Ohio and I do have to tell you - I was right up front and Laura Bush looks at him like they're newlyweds, and the TV cameras do not do her justice. She is just beautiful. Everyone should have a marriage like Ron and Nancy Reagan and George and Laura Bush.
I agree! Reagan/Schmaegan. One of our worst presidents.
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If she'd had an abortion you would never even know about it.
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By not having an abortion.

Like I said, it's not ideal, but so many people are so judgemental toward people who have kids young - at least they didn't take the easy way out and get an abortion.  I am not a pro lifer, but I do respect people who are willing to step up and raise their kids no matter what age they are.  I have friends who were forced to have abortions by their parents because they got pregnant young because the parents were so afraid of what people would think, and that's not right either.


I don't think their mom is going to win any mother-of-the year awards, but if she didn't accept Jamie Lynn's decision than she greatly reduces her chances of having a good relationship with the grandchild.  Babies are a gift - even when they aren't born into the perfect suburban home.  I'm not saying teen pregnancy is a good thing, but it happened, and now she has to make the best of a tough situation.


I'm against abortion, as well.
If you're referring to recognizing their civil union as a marriage, I am against it.


If abortion is murder ...
How do you treat a woman who has had an abortion?   Do you treat her differently from a woman who strangled her newborn?  Or a woman who killed the neighbor lady because she wanted the neighbor man for her own?
I agree with abortion being a choice.
should everyone see an ultrasound beforehand?  I am for the choice to do as you choose.  I believe in freedom as well, but there are people out there that believe abortion is murder.  That is all I was stating above there.  What I am saying is that there are circumstances like some named in this thread that shall we say "warrant" an abortion, but those "rules" would need to be up to the lawmaker.  Are we only talking about teenage pregnancies or pregnancies after the age of 45?  What type of pregnancies are we talking about that the mother should look at the ultrasound beforehand?  There would be a lot of ifs, ands, and buts, for this to become a law, wouldn't some agree?  That is all I was stating there.  I think this may have been misinterpreted.  Of course, I believe a woman has the right to choose in regards to her own healthcare whether it be an abortion, a hysterectomy, or to have a fracture fixated.  All the same to me.  Sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel. 
Anonymous question regarding abortion (sm)

With this being a major factor in the political arena right now I wanted to ask this: 


For anyone who has ever had an abortion (and there are many of us), were/are you ok with it still or did you have a period of extreme guilt/anxiety over it?  I had one and did not terribly regret it, other than a short grief period, until I actually had children.  I went through about two years of horrible guilt and remorse.  I am now pro-life. I feel an abortion kills an innocent child and causes emotional scars for the mother that will never go completely away.  I feel that I am not deserving of complete happiness in my life, ever, because I denied my child the right to have a life and attempt to find happiness.  I know my reasons at that time and I know I felt like it was something I had to do, but the fact is many of us had them to avoid the shame, embarassment and/or financial burden that we feared.  We thought we couldn't give our child a decent life even if we had him/her.  The thing is, for the small price of some embarassment/shame and inconvenience, we could have given a family without a child a chance to have a child to love and raise, we could have given that child an opportunity to grow and seek happiness, even with obstacles to overcome.  Instead, many of us chose a more selfish route, convincing ourselves it was less selfish.  Anyway, that's how I feel about it.  How about you.


I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not murder. SM
Abortions are performed very early on in pregnancy. I'm afraid to say this, but basically, it is a lump of tissue. Women have to right to form their own opinion, but the idea a person is aborting a roly-poly fully formed baby is a crock. This is propaganda devised by right-winged fundamentalists, many of whom happen to be men.

I do believe in practicing safe sex, so abortion will not be needed. That is the ideal, but we are all only human.

No, I never had an abortion. I had my daughter at age 25, after being married 5 years. My daughter was married at 30 and had her first child at 31. We are both Pro Choice.

What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?

We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
Whoever said abortion feels good? nm
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I agree..I would even, in this case, opt for abortion.....nm
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Get over it. Abortion is legal, and American women
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No matter what laws are made, if women want to get an abortion
then they will. I have a couple of abortions prior to a marriage and prior to my 2 children. I have never so called suffered because of my decision, in fact I was young and could not have taken care of any children. I do not regret this decision. Either legal or illegal, makes no difference in a woman making the decision to seak an abortion.
You are correct: The majority of people would NOT vote for abortion
But they WOULD vote FOR Reproductive Choice. Speaking of "activist judges" - how do you feel about the handful that installed a War Criminal in our Whitehouse?
Yes, but abortion would be only taking the budding tomatoe, not the whole plant.
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no, abortion is taking a HUMAN life with a soul.
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and the crime rate dropped 20 years after abortion was legalized
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don't remember Minnie, but I remember Kiki! Though I would rather not.
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Definitely remember Buffy's Bark. Also had a Bassett Hound and remember his bark(EOM)
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My ex did that. What I remember was that it
was horrible in the summer and going under houses was not always the greatest experience. He would find dead animals and of course spiders, mice, rats. 
Just remember: He's a MAN, he's not a god. LOL
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Don't remember anything, just something SM
that felt like cramp and then I woke up. No damage.

My friend, who is quite tiny, said she was moved around quite a bit, but no damage done.

I feel they were excessively rough with you, but that is just my opinion. Also, it sounds like they did not give you enough sedation. You are supposed to feel very relaxed.
Wow! I can remember when ...
we charged $25 period to type it. Then I got to thinking how long I've been out of school. How depressing.
now remember..sm
Brooke also went to Bridgette to see if she could conceive around the same time Taylor did..so, Bridgette could have taken Brooke's eggs, saved them, and used them on Taylor. Anyway, why in the world would Taylor and Nick trust Brooke's daughter with their future child??? I mean come on, Brooke's throwing herself shamelessly at Nick, yet they go to her daughter for in vitro? Wow...
I don't remember the first one....

I couldn't stand looking at Roxy...*lol* - too much gum show......and I do watch the food channel a lot!!!  I used to like Rachael Ray before she got REAL famous and glammed herself out.  I so liked her when she lived in upstate NY doing the 30-minute meal show or $40 a Day show.  Now I refuse to watch her - her voice is very annoying to me today.


GO_AMY!!! 


I was 8 - Remember seeing it on TV (sm)
I remember it being such a shock because he had just always been there and seemed like he always would be.
Remember then from when I was a kid sm
my dad's company picnics, with horseshoes, bbqs, lots of fun
As we remember.....

I would like to ask everyone, as you remember the 9/11 attacks today, to also remember the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. The 9/11 attacks were far greater in scale and in death toll, and I mourn for those who died and for their families. I also mourn for the 168 people who died in the Oklahoma City bombing. Fewer in number, perhaps, but the lives just as precious. It was so hard for me to watch as rescue workers went through the rubble of the day care and pulled out those tiny bodies...


When we send our soldiers into combat, we train them and give them the best equipment available to defend themselves and destroy the enemy. The people who died on September 11, 2001 and April 19, 1995 were innocent civilians who had their lives ripped away in an instant, by people who had no respect for the sanctity of life and who were too cowardly to take their fight to the battlefield where it belongs.


Never again. We must be vigilant. These events occurred on our own soil. Each of has a duty to keep our eyes and ears open, and to cooperate with the increased security precautions our government has implemented. We are all soldiers in this war.


You THINK you remember until it comes down to it (sm)
When they are actually there in your care you have to remind yourself of exactly what babies can and can't do at certain ages. But maybe you are perfect. If so, I apologize O Great One. It ticks me off when people have smart-axe comments for no apparent reason.
thank you so much, was trying to remember the name of that myself, NM
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Everyone does not think like you and I you have to remember that.
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I can remember my mom when I was
a kid wore one every day, whether at work or at home, and those things back then definitely looked uncomfortable.
I'm trying to remember
but I do remember waking up feeling completely flushed hot on the inside, a pool of sweat in the middle of my chest, my heart pounding, thinking I would like to rip my clothes off and jump into the tub filled with ice. Stuff like that. They're quite nasty little episodes. Did you have one? Are you over 45?
and remember this
don't go crying the blues to anyone here when your insurance premiums and medical bills are totally out of control. It is awards like the one this person wants that make insurance unaffordable for countless Americans. any monies awarded in courts will be coming out of your pocket if you currently pay insurance premiums. Yes, I feel for the child, but money won't fix it. This costs everyone, not just the dog's owner. and it solves nothing. she still has not answered the question of what injuries the child sustained, either. to see financial renumeration above the costs of any bills incurred is unfair to EVERYONE.
You have to remember
It is very easy to take email and board postings out of context. I don't think that is quite what she meant. Sheesh.
I still remember....
....leaving cookies and carrots on a plate, for Santa and the reindeer.

I must have been around 11 years old or so, and that Christmas morning, I found a beautiful, handwritten note from my mother. I don't have the note any longer, nor do I remember exactly what she wrote.

But she explained in a loving, wonderful way, the meaning of Christmas, including Jesus, and Santa. I recall the meaning of the note, letting me know that it is the gift of giving, within us all, to give and receive, gifts in His name, and that Santa was the vehicle of that giving, for us, as small children.

I don't remember being disappointed that Santa Claus wasn't "real." Because her note made me realize that the whole season was bigger and brighter, than just Santa, gifts, and tinsel.

And I realize that Santa IS real, just like God and Jesus are real. If we believe, in that small child way, the reasons for believing, will always be with us.
Remember too well
We live in Mississippi now but lived in Florida a very long time, from Miami to Jacksonville and the panhandle. We did sit through a few 1-2 level hurricanes but were fortunate only a few days without power. After Katrina, so many of our friends and family were severely affected from New Orleans to Gulfport. We sat here in MS without power for over a week but lost nothing in it. We did have neighbors and friends that had their homes leveled by huge falling trees and three years later before one got their insurance to cover properly for them to rebuild. We were 200 miles inland with a lot of severe wind damage, so I am sitting on pins and needles knowing another one is heading in this general area and so many friends and family along the coastal areas.

Lets just all pray for everyone's safety.
I remember that too. It would be more fun
to be in the holiday spirit longer if I had more money to spend. Used to get all done before Thanksgiving, but now am waiting until the last minute, because then I won't over buy things. Plus right now, it's just paycheck to paycheck, how do you tell kids that...
PS: I want to boycott K-mart too. Every time I go in there, never find what I want, and always ask myself why I try. LOL.
I can remember as a kid when we had
chest colds, parents would put it all over our chest and then covered with a warmed towel.
jss: Do you remember seeing an
old reenactment about a girl who went upstairs to bed with her Siamese cat? A man broke in and the cat attacked him when he was coming up the stairs. It was too funny; that cat latched on and stayed on him down the road, drawing blood every step of the way!
could be she is right. I just remember
people talking about the pettycoats. Crinoline usually brings to mind scarlet o'hara, but I don't know the difference. Oh, for a ཱུ chevy to ride in.
Just remember that as they get s/m
more frail and need help and have to depend on you, you have kept your head up high, making you one ahead of them.
Yep, I remember that now that you said it

Now that you mentioned it, I remember.  My grandparents lived in Kentucky and had a farm.  My grandma had chickens and had fresh eggs every day.  She never kept them in the fridge.  Always in a basket in the pantry. 


I remember.
My parents used to take us downtown once a year to shop and look at the display windows. Then we would eat at one of the department stores. Dad would take half the kids and mom would take the other half so we could all buy for each other. I remember one year when I was about 6 I was with my dad and my sister and I saw this beautiful red coat I wanted to get mom. We took it up to the counter and my dad told us to give the lady our money. Between us we had 35 cents. We gave it to her and she wrapped it up for us. My dad still tells that story today, how we bought mom a coat for 35 cents. We never did see him give the saleslady the rest of the money, and it was sweet how she played along.
Oh, do I remember!

It was a big deal around Christmas time. We'd take the bus or train to a store in another town because they had a Christmas display made up of moving figures as big as a 3-yo child. People would come from miles around to see it.


We had two 5&dimes in our town right aside of each other. One was "modern", bright lights and big display windows complete with a lunch counter and all open displays. The other was dark with all wood shelves and bins, so cramped only 2 people could fit in the aisles if they turned sideways. This store also had the candy in glass cases that you paid for by the pound.


We also had another old general store like the older 5& dime but he even sold shoes. He had a pair of red shoes with bow ties on them in the window one year. I wanted them so bad because they matched a skirt I had at the time, but they were $10. I only got an allowance of $.50 a week. I was afraid it would take me forever to save the money. Our school's magazine sale was going on at the time and I worked hard to sell as many as I could to win the $10 prize. I won and bought the shoes. It was one of the happiest days in my life.


and remember..
the air raid disaster drills at school during the Cuban missile crisis that the kids had to do? How about this one - got a driver's license from Sear's Catalog for 25 cents. No test. you just fill out the coupon, send in 25 cents and they send you a driver's license. Anybody else do that? Yes, I am older than dirt's mother. anyone remember the "rag man" or the "egg man." they would come down your street with a horsedrawn wagon, one selling eggs, the other picked up old rags but for the life of me I don't remember what they did with those rags! Remember the "milk chute?" They would deliver the milk and put it in the milk chute. If we got ourselves locked out of the house, forgot our keys, we would climb in through that milk chute! I remember listening to the green hornet on the radio. The whole neighborhood got together for that. Kukla, Fran and Ollie anyone?