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Do MTs bother to use their reference books or the internet? SM

Posted By: QALady on 2007-07-04
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I just wonder because I am so sick of correcting reports where the MT has obviously just guessed at what is being dictated or what she heard rather than taking a minute to crack open a freaking book or at the very least Google it.

QA is a resource not a freaking safety net for MTs who can't or won't do the job they were hired for.  Part of the job description for medical transcription is to be both productive AND accurate!  Nowhere does it say, if you don't know, just guess or if you don't know, just leave a blank -- don't look it up or use the internet -- just leave a blank. 

While I'm at it, let me just say to all the MTs out there who have being "doing this for years" and don't think they could ever possibly make a mistake -- YOU ARE WRONG!  To the MTs who use "that's how we were told to do it at my last job" as your battle cry -- THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A STANDARDIZED REFERENCE BOOK CALLED THE AAMT BOS!

I don't care how you did it at your last job.  I don't care if that is what you thought you heard.  I don't care if your spell check didn't catch it.  And I don't care how long you've been an MT.  You should have known how to spell it, you should own a reference book, you should own a copy of the BOS, and years of experience in no way replaces a good solid education!  Finally, you should take the time to educate yourself, look things up you aren't sure of, and just plain care about the content of your work -- not just how much of it you can get done.

 << Getting off my soapbox now.

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FYI I HAVE reference books, but in case you hadn't noticed, thing change a lot faster than BOOKS
I was simply asking for suggestions of other places on line that I might look for the latest info, especially considering that my work is on the internet, what the hell is wrong with trying to be more productive and efficient?!?! Good Grief!!
Reference books

I use my pharmaceutical word book most often, then Stedman GI/GU & Stedman Equipment.  I have a used 2004 Pharmaceutical word book (Drake & Drake) if you would like it.

Reference Books
Good reference books (and abbreviations book!) are a must also. I Google a lot, but I really verify with my BOS and my Stedman's reference books. Agree with other posters. Stedman's Medical Speller a definite must have for me.
Reference books
I have many, many books, but use fewer and fewer of them as I find good internet sites - it is much faster for me to look up something on a website than to pull out the books all the time. I would say that I use my Dorlands and my Webster medical word books more than any others, though.
new reference books
I am in need of reference books and looking at Stedmans Medical and SUrgical equipment book. I see the fifth edition is out, that must be the newest edition?

Also looking at Stedmans Ortho word book, fifth edition but dated 2005. Is this too old to consider purchasing? How do you know when a new edition will be coming out?

reference books
When I look up a term in a reference book I use a highlighter pen to highlight the term in the book. Like Lucy said, the act of just doing something like writing it down or highlighting the term helps me remember it.
What are the must have reference books?
I'm wondering what the must have reference books would be to start out with.  What are your faves?
Best reference books to get

I am going to buy some reference books to have.  Can you all help me in getting the ones I need.  I will doing a variety of reports...cardiology, radiology, emergency departments ect....

I appreciate it!!!!  :)

Reference books? GOOOOOOGLE. :)

Opinion on reference books.
I am a newly graduated MT and am beginning the job search. So far so good. I got a 98.2 on the first test I did and it was long! That was a real confidence booster, too bad they are not hiring immediately. I am reallizing that I will need to invest in more books.

Which books should I absolutely get the newest versions of and which would it be okay to get slightly older and cheaper used ones?
Query: How many have reference books and how many?
Wondering if I should expand my library.
Reference books and Google
Google is not always accurate either!!!! In my 7 years as an MT, I find it taking way too much time trying to find the correct spelling of referring physicians or primary care physicians online, especially if you have no clue as to which city they practice in, and when they dictate all these physicians names they want a cc to go to. I also would just like to add that maybe QALady should consider taking the word "Lady" off the end of her name. Obviously no one will ever be as "perfect" as you and I feel for the man you're married to, if you're at all married. If you complain about a few MTs, don't refer to all MTs, do your job, provide feedback, and if those same MTs continue to be sloppy, then the supervisor isn't doing his/her job at all. I'm a firm believer of shame on me once, maybe even a second time, but no more than a second time for the same mistakes. I welcome feedback and print every single report I have had a blank on for future reference. Sloppy may describe some, not all.
I seldom use the reference books...
or the software my company has provided us, and I have some nice reference books. I use Google with good results. I personally won't invest another dime in reference materials if I can help it, just not necessary.
How often do you replace your reference books, or (sm)
do you all strictly use medically acceptable internet sites for research now?  I've been using the internet a lot, but I'm thinking of getting a new Surgical Word Book.  Wondering if it is worth my $50 to do this.  Thoughts?  Thanks in advance.
I, too, remember lack of reference books. I'd tug on sm
the doctors' sleeves to get answers to my questions, or I'd go to the OR and look at product boxes for proper names. I wouldn't trade a minute of it, would you?
use resources means to use reference books or - sm
look up things on-line to research, like google. A lot of times you can figure terms out by putting in a few of the words you can understand. Being able to reference well is key to being a good transcriptionist, especially when you are doing a new specialty. The company you are testing for should have told you how they wanted blands left, some want just _____, some *, or maybe a highlighted line. I would just go with a ___ if I were you. Type it all up, then go back over it with just your speakers on (no headphones) and sometimes that helps you pick up words you did not hear before, also change the speed, slow them down if they talk real fast, or speed up of real slow, you get the idea. Fool around with it. Tests stink, but when you are a total novice they are really rough. Good luck.
Reference Books versus software
I am running a poll here.  How many prefer to use reference books over software programs and vice versa.  Does using one or the other assist in your production?  I am just getting back into at-home transcription and am wondering which, and what,  to purchase.  TIA
I'd send you my hardcopy books, but here's an online reference.

The site states that it's only in recent times that the quotation marks come outside the period, essentially because people are too lazy to follow the "proper" rules. I'm no old lady, but I was taught not to be lazy just because the rest of the world refuses to follow the rules.
Reference books/sites for breast cancer (sm)
I just started with a breast cancer surgeon.  I am wondering if anyone can recommend some good reference material for this.  Thanks.
I prefer software as opposed to looking it up in reference books...
I like the Stedman's word books software that you download on the computer and when you want to look something up you just click a button versus getting the book out and looking for it. I seems much quicker to me.
Can anyone recommend any good acute care reference books
I am thinking of changing from clinic to acute care transcription.  Can anyone recommend any good reference books that I should have?  TIA
Need good internet reference for doctors
The several places I have stored for some reason gone out of the business. Need to look up these names when not spelled which is almost never. Thanks.
what is your favorite internet reference site?
Need all the bookmarks I can get!!
Don't buy books. Use the internet for research.
of using Stedman books is over.  You can find new drugs, surgical instruments and much more. 
Both, but mostly books, Internet sites not updated often enough.
Some are, but I find it mostly a waste of time having to surf through pages of links to find exactly what I want.
Having to use books only, with no Internet to research words,
Still, disabling a computer they own is one thing; disabling one YOU own is another. I think that's more of a power-trip on their part than anything that will truly protect them. If they connect with any other PC for any transmission of data, they can get a virus. Hobbling their MTs when it comes to research and communication via the Internet is going to prove counter-productive to them in the long run. They should invest in some professional grade antivirus software and consider joining the 21st Century like the rest of us.

I personally wouldn't work for such an employer. But you could: Ask them to provide you with THEIR computer to disable, if they feel that's so important. Check with your IP to see if you can simply set up a 2nd email account that you could toggle in and out of. Or, buy a laptop, have a different user-name & email address, and use that to stay connected with the outside world.

You are always tlaking abaout books! Much too slow. INTERNET...nm
I prefer books. I'm kinda old school. I like to be able to write new terms in my books. I do

have Stedman's Medical Dictationary on CD and I do use it quite a bit, but that's more because the actual print dictionary is so darn heavy to pick up and look a word up!

Internet based transcription - need advice on how to go internet
Can anyone offer any help/advice on how go about becoming internet based from a call in system, or how to keep the call in system for the docs and put transcriptionists on the internet?  Not sure where to start to get information on how to go about doing this. Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks.
If you want to work on the internet from home, take an internet course
But only from Andrews School or M-TEC. Many companies will waive the 2-years' experience requirement and will test and hire you if you go to either of those schools. Do NOT bother with At Home Professions, Penn Foster, US Career Institute, or ESPECIALLY Trans-Am, which is also known as Trans-SCAM and is a total ripoff. You will have a VERY difficult time getting hired without experience unless you choose Andrews School or M-TEC. Yes, they cost more, but that's because they are excellent training programs, not "correspondence courses."
Why bother asking???
Just looking for reference so everybody who needed to know could know. Not trying to flame. Simply asked for reference as BOS User provided reference and ALS did not -- guess you weren't as interested as I thought you were?!?
bother, not both
oops, suppose will get slammed here.
Don't even bother -
.....as we speak!
If he is not used to it, of course it will bother him at first, but he will get used to it if
Don't bother with them...
I worked there for a few months and received incorrect and late paychecks.  They are not worth spit.  The MT manager has never been an MT and is clueless when it comes to the work. 
i have them around, they just don't bother me.

that would bother me too
-- how do you know that down the road, someone wouldn't undercut you the same way. It would be hard to trust them and not get nervous about it later, esp if you took on a debt/new payment or something.
Does not bother me in the least-
I get out and go as much as I want, just had lunch out before starting work today, hubby and me, went over to my daughters house last night to give her some assistance with lawmmower, etc. and to tell you the truth, like hubs and me just well, really donít care that much about socializing all the time, rather be working and making the $$$$.
I don't know why I bother...

but here goes.....

I am not for "outsourcing".  I am not for it because it is a way for greedy americans to try and get cheap labor.  If someone wants to compete fairly with me for a job, I am fine with that. 

But I am also not for belittling people and picking apart their posts no matter who they are and where they are from.

I also think that if you are proud to be American, you would rise above losing your job to outsourcing.  You would not spend your time whining and complaining and insulting strangers.  Rise above your circumstances...create your own opportunity...isn't that the American way?

Don't bother!
I joined with the same thought process as you.  Not only did no one care whether or not I had this to add to my resume, but I have not used one thing that has been offered.  There is an email that comes once every couple of weeks that I delete before even looking at it.  I did look at the first couple and it was "who cares" kind of information.  I just don't have time to be perusing through a bunch of information that I will probably never need and if I do, I can look it up through Google, drugs.com, etc.  This is just my opinion, take it for what you will.
Would this bother you? regarding QA
When corrections need to be made a bulk fax goes out to the MTs on that account. Any corrections, or notes, made by the hospital are on these. I just feel like these should not be sent to everyone but only to the individual that needs to correct them. Am I wrong?
Would this bother you?

I was hired with 2 other MTs to do a new acct for a national whose name shall not be mentioned. 

During the first several months, it became noticeable that one MT who was the largest producer was cherry picking and their reports were riddled with errors.  And this is a fantastic account for the most part - very easy to make money without cheating.

So, the other MT and I mentioned it to each other and agreed to what we were both observing.  She took it to the supervisor who concluded that there was envy on our part because he typed the most.  She dismissed our claims as did the QA person/assistant to supervisor after I mentioned to her I was seeing his work (like when 2 rads dictate the same report and you find out by seeing the other report in place) and it had typos in it or the skeleton of a canned report not filled out at the bottom of the page (must have put it in twice). 

A few months later, the account (a hospital) requested this MT be taken off the acct.  He was placed on 100QA and then let go (policy). 

The sup and the QA person, although never mentioning it, must have realized it was not jealousy at all at that moment. Right?  That we loved our jobs and did not want this type of work to go through and all of us be considered fly-by-nights.

Rather, there appeared to be something close to resentment as we began to be both QA'ed to death with the other MT nearly losing her job until she put her foot down and refused to be on 100% QA (25 yr veteran). 

The tension was palpable and it was made worse that every lead MT in our dept appeared to know about it and began to treat us like we were whiners and complainers. 

I was then dx'ed with BC and in a state of panic told my group.  My sup told my the QA person had been dx'ed with BC too and that she was call me and reassure me. We spoke for quite some time on a few different occasions on the phone and and e-mailed back and forth.

She said she was also engaged to a radiologist who worked at the hospital in her hometown.  A team member with an investigative mind decided to check it out and found out he was married and had a child with no divorce recorded in his county. 

I was contacted and told not to take her advice regarding BC treatment and maybe I should be more private about details..

It has been over 3 years now. I am still alive.

But.. I cannot for the life of me answer the phone when my sup calls.  I dread talking to her and actually have not for nearly a year (lol)

I feel as if they pretended she was a cancer patient so I would share details about my prognosis and they would be better prepared for coverage should I end up unable to work.  

Have you ever heard of anything quite so strange in the new world of work place telecommunication?   Should I just shut up and count my money and thank the MT Gods that I have an account with no ESLs? 

Sorry, I have wanted to write this for a year but was afraid the details would reveal who it was should anyone peruse this site.  Hopefully, now, it will go unnoticed.

Appreciate your feedback if you have any at all. 

Sorry to be such a bother.
The reason I asked about feedback is because I went from working under a supervisor at a local hospital, who constantly told us how we were doing (monthly reviews at least), to an MTSO where I only rarely get feedback, and it is always negative. Because of this, I am concerned, as I don't know whether I am actually doing good or whether I am just squeezing by.

When you are coming close to needing to fire someone, do you make it pretty obvious? Only asking because I am personally afraid of being blindsided, since I am not used to working for an MTSO.

Feel free to let me know if I am crossing the line in any of my questions as well. It is just nice to be able to ask someone higher up about how things are done, especially being newer to the business.

Thank you!
Don't Bother

I was a CMT for 12 years, but let it lapse last year when it was up for renewal.  It never made a bit of difference when I looking for a job, either you're a good Transcriptionist or you're not.  There's some CMTs that are book smart, but don't have a bit of common sense and that's just as important.  Being a CMT is a matter of personal choice, but in no means does it guarantee a better job or a higher paying one.

AHDI supports offshoring and always has.  They try very hard to remain "politically correct" and not upset their Indian buddies.  In fact, most of the board of directors are employed by Indian companies.  They do not support the American MT at all.

AHDI would like you to believe the certification may become required.  If it does, it would not be through them.  It would be a state or federal licensing program, not through AHDI.

You have to earn 30 CEC's in a 3 year period to renew your CMT.  You have to pay for continuing education classes or attend AHDI functions which you also pay for. 


So why did you bother asking in the first plac?
Thanks..I won't bother to apply with them now.
This totally would not bother me and
I would love to work at home for a hospital with an excellent incentive plan instead of a large service with jumping from account to account just to get my lines in.  I bet if they had a job listing on the boards, they would have many, many replies, even with the micromanaging.
I get this all the time... these are the ones that bother me...
The ones that bother me the most are the people who ask me to babysit their children, saying, "since you are home all day, could you.."  Those are the ones that get under my skin. 
they really don't bother you if you just leave them alone

they are just trying to survive like all the other creatures whose habitat is slowly being destroyed.  Most snakes are afraid of people.

Why bother to get that upset?
I'd be singing a different tune in a different circumstance but I always tell MTs to go through and type what they hear. Go back and give it a second listen and fill in what you can. Then, if you have absolutely no idea .. you need to send it to QA and move on. You are working production and if you cannot get the blank, leave it to your QA team. Your work is going to suffer in the big picture if you are not able to complete the work and frankly, you might just need a change of venue altogether. There is too much that factors into a job to become that upset over it all.
If you do not have experience, do not bother......sm
I have had way too many inquiries from "non MTs" that think this job is easy.  Get an education and experience in-house first.