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Posted By: Amanda on 2008-08-25
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Yes he did take money from the "big guy"
Sure he may have taken $5 and $10 here and there but he has not been truthful and many people who were mesmerized by him actually believe this hooey. Obama is backed by Brzienski(sp?), Bilderberger, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs. There is a lot more to who gives money to the campaigns besides little ol grandma smith who gave $5. There are not enough people in America that if they donated $5 or $10 (or even $2300) that he would have raised the kind of money he raised. You also have to remember Obama got 52% of the popular vote and McCain got 48%. That's only a 4 point lead. That means 48% of America did not vote for Obama or send him money, and I doubt very highly out of the 52% that voted for him not every single person had money to donate. He won 4%. Not a huge difference as some are portraying it. I talk to one of my family members and they make it sound like it was a huge landslide. I reminded her 4 points is not a huge landslide.

As for not taking money from lobbyists.... he took money from special interests groups and that is who is beholden to and they donated BIG!
What dribble and so uninformed, he isn't taking money from small businesses, geez.
Common sense should tell you he is not saying he is taking the money from small business to give to the the middle class.

he is saying he wants to tax fairly the wealthy (businesses over 250,000) and probably take some of the loop holes away. Lower the middle class taxes (if there is one anymore) so we can breathe. Former statesmen have said it is dangerous to put all the money in so few hands, it develops corruption. Don't just read the headlines, read between, on top, in depth, etc. McCain jumped on that statement to win votes. He is wealthy, what makes you think he understands you? The reason our jobs are going overseas is the present adminstration has given all these corporations tax breaks to do so - saying it builds global democracy - it didn't work, it just made the corporations richer). i don't care who you vote for but Ms. Piggy would be better than McCain and dum, DE dum dum.

Yet we get on this board and moan and whine about not getting paid enough and companies are spening millions buying other transcription companies over our backs you think taxing them fairly is socialism.

I am through with this board, it is sad so many want 4 more years of the same. Keep working for pennies while benefits are taken from you, lines per are decreased. Do you think getting less for voice is fair when it takes almost the same amount of time to do it and make half? Do you think the company is taking that much of a hit? Yet they are forcing it so it most be a benefit to them. They are laughing all the way to the bank while you eat the feathers.
Those were economic stimulus checks...a one-time deal.
what Obama is proposing is NOT a one-time deal. It will be part of the tax code. BIG difference.
Waste of time and money!
Mailing hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of red envelopes is a waste of time and money. It is not going to have any effect on the abortion law, and the only winner is the post office. Can't you people think of more constructive ways to support a cause?
Why don't you give your time & money to the
She's obviously living your idea of the Model Life.

What a fine, upstanding woman that Nadya is. She's a real beacon of inspiration to the rest of us to 'go forth and propagate.'

You people are too blinded by your own sense of self-worth to ever be of any worth to anybody else.

Get a job. Put a low-income student through college. Pay some single mother's rent or buy some groceries for her kids. Go help out in an underdeveloped (and over-populated) 3rd-world country. Read books other than the bible. You might actually learn something of value that can be put to use in the real world, not the fantasy-world you live in.
Too bad most Americans don't have the money to spare this time.
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Well....if Planned Parenthood spent as much time and money....
offering contraception as they do abortion, it might make a difference. They make a killing...pun intended...on abortions. Millions of dollars. And can't afford to keep a clinic open 7 days a week??? Where is all that money going? I love their clinic rules...we will take a check for any service EXCEPT abortion. Cash up front for that one.

It was, in fact, the Memphis Planned Parenthood clinic site I was looking at.

Unbelievable! Drug dealers (sm)

There was a drug bust in my area overnight. One form of heroin being sold was stamped "Obama 09" !


Good heavens! Now they're even rooting for him. I have never heard of anything like this before.


They must be snobby, elitist, liberal drug dealers, huh! (nm)
:p
For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations

Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans?  Pleeze!  That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it.  He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right!   I guess you believe that too! 


AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks?  Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time!    Get a clue!


For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations

Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans?  Pleeze!  That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it.  He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right!   I guess you believe that too! 


AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks?  Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time!    Get a clue.  Oh no, let's not go there!


For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations

Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans?  Pleeze!  That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it.  He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right!   I guess you believe that too! 


AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks?  Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time!    Get a clue.  Oh no, let's not go there!


He does not want "big government", but the big MESS he inherited and is now taking on.....sm
as Bush never would (and he was the president that kept insisting we were not in a recession right up to the crash, remember, and did absolutely NOTHING), the possible solutions, ever hear "desparate times requires desperate measures?" There are so many widesweeping changes go be made, it does take MONEY and work and forsight to fight problems this big. So before you condemn, try to wrap your partisan mind aroudn the MAMMOTH problems this man is willing to try to solve for our society, our country, or future, and stop try to make it a partisan problem, we are all Americans, we have a president working hard for answers, he is not God, his is not Superman, but he is trying to undo all the damage left behind....would you want to inherit this huge catastrophe??? I would not, I give him so much credit for trying so hard. Mistakes yes, but did Bush try to do anything as the train wreck was about to happen????? NO.
Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
nm
It takes money to make money. nm


The deal is
just like the war, embryonic stell research has been so politicized that any kind of logical even-minded interpretation has flown right out the window. 
I think it is a very big deal -
I don't think it would be a very big deal at all if she were the one paying for it and not the RNC - I don't think that clothes and makeup and haircuts is where most people think their donations are going when they donate their money...

and I don't think it sends a very good message at this time when people are trying to figure out how to buy gas and food and pay their utilities that they are paying $150,000 a month for clothes for her to wear..

and they will be donated to charitable causes? Give me a break!
Here's the deal...sm

1.  What makes it so profitable for foreign oil companies is the tax cuts provided to them by our government.  I won't even bother arguing who did that as its pretty obvious.


2.  The US Department of Energy last time I checked was a page or two before the "funnies."


3. Within the same time (or probably less) that we could drill for more oil here in the US (which wouldn't even come close to producing the quantity we use, and would not stand a chance on the market due to taxes that are already in place) we could implement other sources of energy.  In the course of this we would be providing renewable energy, decrease the horrific environmental impact on the environment, and create new jobs. 


I also think this was a done deal
before the DNC. Remember how pelosi said SHE would take care of it (meaning the nominee) before the DNC? I had the feeling when HC conceded, it was because she was made a sweet deal by somebody.
OK, hon, this is the deal.
Hitler was an anti-Semite, granted. Using his Holocaust against the Jews as a historical parallel to illustrate the Palestinian Holocaust is not.

I do not wish to waste my time beating this dead horse with you, especially since your entire argument is founded on a false premise (a kind reference to what, in fact, is a filthy lie that seeks to dehumanize and trivialize genocidal slaughter). As long as you dismiss the occupation and "myth" and try to present a case that rewrites a distorted and warped history by assuming an exclusionary myopic perspective based on such an outrage (occupation denial), nothing you have to say holds any credibility and merits no further consideration or comment.

As long as the Israel perpetuates its own myth-based myth and believes it can justify state-sponsored terrorist apartheid occupation, it will doom itself to living in a parallel universe as a hated global pariah and its population will never see a moment of real peace or security.

that was quite a deal, eh? sm

Being conservative and pro-life (and never having given birth to boot), "freedom of speech" is something I want to see more often--certainly more than "racist!"  Talk about an over-played, lame-@ss word, ya know?


My only take on it is that, like Savage says, "I leave vengeance to God."  But you certainly have every right to say whatever you want, and I'm glad you said it without apology. 


What really ticked me off was when Greg Jarrett on Fox used the term for pro-lifers as "extremists."  Excuse me?  I have every right to be pro-life and hold anyone I elect to that same mindset.  So that makes me an extremist?  It escapes me if I'm also considered a religious extremist.


That frosts me far more than about any of the lame remarks like GJs, etc.


Here's the deal about prejudice. sm
Prejudice is prejudice.  I don't differentiate prejudice against overweight people any differently than I do prejudice for race.  The left seems to be able to do that with no problem.  Why, you would think they are all slender and well groomed.  However, the presence in their midst of people like Ted Kennedy, Jerry Nadler, Barney Franks, Linda Ronstadt, etc., etc., would prove differently. 
it's politics. deal with it.

Wow, that sure got your panties all in a wad, now didn't it. 


Wonder why    ?


Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?

I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
I think the debate is a big deal
One of these guys is going to be elected president in the next 41 days. I want to hear them debate. This crisis is not going to get worse because a few hours are spent on a debate.
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The reason it has become a big deal . . .
this is a woman who is almost single handedly dividing this country into pro-American and anti-American.  (Can you say McCarthyism?)She who claims to be so patriotic and pro-America.  If she is so gosh-darned American, than why isn't she buying her clothes at Wal-Mart?  Can't get much more American than that!  She actually sees herself as some sort of grand presevationist of the great American ideal -- bullhockey!.  She is nothing but a power-crazed, hypocritical megalomaniac.  She gives us legitimate women a bad name and I am ashamed to share gender with her!
Sorry you have to deal with so many cooks
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They sure won't be able to deal with it if he loses.

A $2M victory party already.  If he loses what will he do?  Many news casters both left and right say he should not be so bold to think he already has won.  Nov 4th has not arrived yet.  I'm hearing more and more democrats are voting for McCain.  Polls are neck in neck (even though they don't mean squat), but they are all over the place.  And we do have to factor in the 11% who are undecided.  And factor in the people who are too afraid to publicly state they are not for Obama, yet when election time comes they feel more comfortable having someone in who has experience and knows what they are doing.  So what's going to happen if they do lose.  It IS a possibility after all.  Even Michelle Obama at a rally said do not listen to the polls it is a close race.


I don't think for one second that there will be riots.  I think that is a scare tactic being used by Obama supporters to put fear in Americans. "Vote for Obama or we'll riot".  Pulleese.  I know that if Obama wins there are a lot on the other side who will say the same.  Illegal elections, votes stolen, it goes both ways.


So, I just sit back, hope the next 9 days go by fast and will wait until late 11/4 or 11/5 if it takes that long to see who won. 


If Obama wins I will come back on the board and say "congratulations" but if he loses I will say "I told you so".  It's at the time when people get too cockie that things don't work out the way they hope them to.


Of course you don't understand the big deal.
You could have written the scripts. A lot of it is identical to what you post on this forum.
Was a deal made??? probably. sm
And no matter what deal was made or how or by who, bottom line is that the American people are going to get the brown end of the stick....AGAIN.
I have an awesome deal right now too (sm)

My husband is a firefighter so we have insurance through the city (BC/BS).  That's a relief all by itself!  However, the city has gone one step further for its employees.  They provide FOR FREE a clinic where you can go for the small stuff (cuts, colds, UTIs, etc).  They also provide city employees with FREE medicine so long as they carry it.  It has to be generic, but it's such a huge help.  What this service provides us:  For me:  lipid-lowering agent, happy pills, sleeping pills, and PPI.  For my husband:  Blood pressure medication and PPI.


They did this because it is actually cheaper for them in the long run to provide this service to their employees with health maintenance drugs, thereby reducing the added cost to the insurance from people not being able to afford this medication and ending up in the hospital which in the long run increases the cost of insurance.  I just hope they can continue to do this.


Geesh what is your deal?
I am laughing at this!  Out of all the nasty, mean, down right horrible posts on this board, you pick this one to get  your panties in a wad about?  I dont get it?  Abc posted that she could kill her baby in her tummy which is here opinion but what about that?  why not be upset over that?  is that cuz you agree with abortion and that is okay?  you're like on a witch hunt or something.
The only ones making a big deal are
the liberals trying to argue that everyone is prejudice against him and a racist. Conservatives and independents could care less. Conservatives and independents try to argue about issues. The liberals (most but not all) are the ones who turn it into a race issue.

We all know he's half white/half black and I think the one making the biggest deal out of him being the first black is he himself.
big flippin deal

Desperately grasping at straws to stir up some kind of controversy. 


 


no, here is the deal, the question was
did he give her a chance to answer the question or not? Yes he did. And since she did not, he looked it up for himself and gave us the the answer on tonight's show. She said her way of defending Sarah was by calling Bill-O a sexist during the campaign. SAY WHAT, how is that defending anyone?
Yes, I truly think we will get a worse deal...

...with universal healthcare than we have now.  If you want to screw something up royally, give it to the gummint to run. 


Good lord!  Look at Canada or the UK, who have socialized medicine.  You go into a Canadian clinic.  It's a walk-in system. They don't make appointments.  You take a number, which is 51.  Number fifty is called.  Then it's quitting time.  You get sent home to come back another day and try your luck again.  Need an MRI?  Take a number.  We'lll call you in 4-6 months - or you could go to the US for it.  Need bypass surgery?  We'll see about that.   


It will become a triage system:  You, sir, are 60 years old and overweight.  Your cholesterol is too high.  Why should we waste our precious resources on you when younger and more viable specimens are stacking up outside?  No, you may not have an angioplasty - at least not this decade.  NEXT! 


Socialized medicine is a pretty good deal if you're young and don't need a lot of services - not so very good when you reach an age when you actually do need them.


 


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what is the deal with the mob mentality...
is this gang up on old men day? And I say this with the utmost respect because I, for one, really like old men! Do you people have so little to say to actually bolster you stance on issues that all you can do to feel better is pick on one particular poster? Well, here you go--pick on me, too, if it will make you feel better about yourselves. I can, as I am sure TechSupport can, take it.
I just got my Dell, what a deal that was!
I have had Dells in the past, would have gone with them last year but I knew they had Vista, could not use with my platform and just recently learned you could still, for a price, have XP put on. Back to my story. Had always had really good machines from there, had put up with the language before, not as bad in years past like now. I got passed from pillar to post and back again ordering. I spoke with 1 person, completely unable to talk with them and told them I have to listen to different dialects each day in my job, not when I am ordering and told them wanted to speak to someone I can understand. I am older and don’t have time to play around. I placed order, delivery delayed and delayed and delayed. I thought it would never get here. Another delay and I was cancelling my order and it just showed up 1 day. I hope to get really good service, not from them because that just does not happen now, but from the machine itself. That was a chore to have to go through that and should never be that way. I was told about the delay that Dell could not get the parts needed for the computer??
No big deal. Everyone makes mistakes.
It's easy to do on this board sometimes.
I don't think the phone call to CBS was a big deal....sm
This call has nothing to do with politics but more of a favor to a friend. He used his influence to help a friend out. Looks like CBS owed him the money anyway. Friends help each other out this way all the time, no harm done IMHO.

Travelgate is a different story. Firing the people for not reason to appoint friends is cronyism.
Obama is the real deal! lol
I've watched every debate in the primaries and in the champaign, every interview on CNN, watched the interview after interview and heard from so many polical analysts most than I ever have in my life about an election this year. I have always been a Rep from the day I was born 46 years ago, but this is the first time in my life I am voting Dem for Obama. There is no question he is going to make more of a difference, and just maybe, our jobs could be saved and not outsourced by his tax break to companies who DO NOT outsource! Obama 08! =)
Here's the deal. This kind of rhetoric is exactly
and does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of your broken down party and the dirth of leadership you are currently experiencing. This kind of disconnect between your party and the rest of us is exactly what you should be spending your time trying to come to terms with.

Being a democrat, it is fine with me if you persist along these lines, since it would serve to ensure similar election results next time around, but for your own sakes, you guys really do need to GET A GRIP.
Yeah, and why do none of you make a big deal re:
nm
Well I really didn't think it was a huge deal
and you are the only person who freaked out about it.  Give it a rest!
$300 for health insurance is a deal.

cost $1,000 or more a month?


Health insurance premiums, plus their refusal to insure people with preexisting conditions, are becoming prohibitive costwise for many (millions of Americans) to afford.


Though the example you gave may be true for some younger folks, I believe that's the exception and not the rule.


There is a huge crisis in healthcare in this country today.  Good for you that you can afford it and just blame everyone else who can't.  Maybe someday soon you'll be in the same boat with the 50-odd million Americans who simply can't afford it.  Who will you blame then?


They are not! They are factual. A great deal of research, actually
going and talking to people who were THERE over the years when Obama was growing up, a teen, a young adult, and adult.  This is not speculation folks, this is downright brass tacks in person research.  Don't be fooled.  And, to the person below who posted that you have no problem with Muslims, then you need to reprioritize and realize that while there is a small portion of Islamic people who do no wish harm on Americans, most of them do.  They were raised up to do precisely that. 
Learned how to deal with the frustrations of politics

I am so much calmer now these days since I learned how to deal with the frustrating day to day news of politics.  My solution - I now watch HBO, The Food Channel, BBC, Travel Channel, and any other channel that is not news related.  If I want news I will look at Drudge.  TV is just too overwhelming for me and all these so called "experts" commenting on the politics. 


So...you shouldn't be seeing any more stupid irate comments from me anymore.  I'll now just be a couch potato learning how to cook different foods and planning my vacation to all these far away places on the travel channel.  Oh yes, I forgot...while I speak in a british accent because I watch so much BBC.  HA HA 


Here's a deal - the pubs will take the wrap for troopergate if
Braaaaawk Osama takes the wrap for the rampant voter fraud he is perpetuating across the US.

He's a crooked scheister and the Dems are coming off looking like monkeys with their heads up their own heinies for swallowing his B.S.

Don't you think there's a reason Osamabinbama has to look for his voters by dredging soup kitchens and rock concerts and homeless shelters? I guess that's the voter 'base' in the Democratic party now. Air heads and pot heads. Greaaaaaaaat.
NYT ad alone cost $200,000 in taxpayer funds. Not a big deal?nm
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I have to take a small exception....
I understand why there was no half staff declaration for Katrina victims and there was for VA Tech. There is a difference in a natural disaster, where loss of life is expected to some degree (not condoned, not accepted, but expected) and a crazy going nuts and murdering 32 people in a heinous horrible bloodbath. I can see why the half-staff for VTech. There has never, as far as I have known, been half-staff for victims of natural disaster, and Hurricane Andrew killed many as well. Although there was no paper half-staff declaration, I did hear personally on many occasions President Bush use some of the same words in talking about the Katrina victims...and he did declare a national day of remembrance for the Katrina victims, which he did not do for the VA Tech victims.