The lawsuit I am talking about was just filed this week...by some Democrat attorney...
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-25
In Reply to: A couple notes - kd
in Pennsylvania. It may be the same material Bill and Hillary were going to go to court with...this is the first I heard that they personally were going to do it.
And Rendell said just this morning...saw it on the news...that he was "ashamed" of the way the press and fawned over Obama during the primaries much more than on Clinton. He did not say anything against Obama per se...just harangued the press for its biased coverage.
Also just heard a guy, and can't remember for the life of me what his organization is called...basically disgruntled Hillary supporters...who says that some 30% of her supporters are firmly deciding to support McCain...according to him, that's almost 3 million people. If that many Dems vote for McCain...don't know if Obama can overcome that.
I still say Hillary may say she supports Obama to the public, but in private I am thinking she is behind these people making waves because she wants Hillary in 2012.
It is really fascinating how this is playing out.
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Don't jump on me...jump on the attorney who filed it...
good grief.
Yea, they were talking about him this week.....
He's only about 35 but, of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he can't do the job. It might be a breath of fresh air to have someone younger up there who hasn't been around so long as to become jaded and corrupt like so many.....time will tell.
Good for the attorney general and US attorney for filing their complaint. sm
He doesn't realize [or maybe he knows exactly] how effective his *satire* could be on his audience. All it takes is a few nut jobs listening in and there you have a vigilante sniping imigrants. I tried to find a clip to listen to on the web but couldn't.
Note that the democratic talking points memo of the week must contain sm
stuff about utilities, cuz I sure see it on here a lot. I guess it was okay when Saddam was in power cuz people could flush their toilets and drown out the screams of those being tortured and raped.
I knew it had been filed....
so now they have been served? Out of curiousity, if he was proven ineligible and had to withdraw...what happens then? Another primary or what? Has that ever happened before? Where a nominee had to withdraw before the election? Does the party just pick another person and that person pick another VP?
GM has NOT filed for bankruptcy.nm
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GM also has a lawsuit
against them for the sum of 303,000,000.00 for intentionally mis stating the companies revenies etc in an effort to inflate the stock prices. They officially settled July 21, 2008 and basically admitted they lied. THAT is one of the reasons GM is going under. I sent in my paperwork yesterday to get a piece of that settlement sicne we owned stock in GM.
This is not the first time this suit has been filed...
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How does one "plant" a lawsuit?
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Lawsuit still breathing...
http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/21/barack-obama-citizenship-lawsuit-still-breathing/
Articles of impeachment filed on Cheney sm
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), the former mayor of Cleveland who is seeking the 2008 Democratic nomination for president for the second time, introduced articles to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney Tuesday, basing his decision on Cheney's initial push to send the United States into war with Iraq.
The vice president is beating the same drums of war against Iran that he beat against Iraq under false pretenses, and he's doing it all over again, against Iran, Kucinich said. And I say that it's time to stand up to that. Our country couldn't afford this last war. We can't afford to go into another one. And somebody has to challenge the conduct of this Vice President.
See: http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/kucinich-takes-steps-to-impeach-cheney.html
A Hillary supporter in Pennsylvania has filed...
a lawsuit about Obama's citizenship. I have read...and I haven't read everything yet...that it alleges Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii. I don't have all the details. I don't know if it has merit...I just know it was filed. Probably just sour grapes, but I think the timing is key...a few days before the convention starts. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
And yeah, QA'ing posts on a posting board is WAY over the top.
Lawsuit...Biden's son and brother....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html?dbk
Obama in a lawsuit to prove his
36. Obama is a representative of the Democratic People. However, Obama must meet the Qualifications specified for the United States Office of the President, which he must be a “natural born” citizen. Additionally, Obama must be at least a “naturalized” citizen to hold his Office of U.S. Senator for Illinois. Unfortunately, Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, nor is he a “naturalized” citizen. Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro who legally “acknowledged” Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or “adopted” Obama, which caused Obama to become a “natural” Indonesian citizen. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro relocated herself and Obama to Indonesia wherein Obama’s mother naturalized in Indonesia. This is proven by Obama’s school record with the student’s name as “Barry Soetoro”, Father’s name: Lolo Soetoro, M.A., and Citizenship: Indonesia
38. Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth. There are records of a “registry of birth” for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.
39. Upon investigation into the alleged birth of Obama in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama’s birth is reported as occurring at two (2) separate hospitals, Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital. The Rainbow Edition News Letter, November 2004 Edition, published by the Education Laboratory School did a several page article of an interview with Obama and his half-sister, Maya. The Rainbow Edition News Letter reports Obama was born August 4, 1961 at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. More interesting in February 2008, Obama’s half-sister, Maya, was again interviewed in the Star Bulletin, and this time, Maya states Obama was born August 4, 1961 in Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children.
So far, O chooses to ignore every lawsuit instead
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Here's the brief filed in court by several media agencies...including
Was Valerie Plame covert?What's curious is that lawyers representing 36 media organizations argued she wasn't in this amici curiae brief submitted to the US District Court.
(page ii) "In this case, there exists ample evidence in the public record to cast serious doubt as to whether a crime has even been committed under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (the "Act") in the investigation underlying the attempts to secure testimony from Miller and Cooper. If in fact no crime under the Act has been committed, then any need to compel Miller and Cooper to reveal their confidential sources should evaporate."
And further
(ppg 30,31) "Plame was not given 'deep cover' required of a covert agent...She worked at a desk job at CIA headquarters, where she could be seen traveling to and from, and active at, Langley. She had been residing in Washington — not not stationed abroad-- for a number of years. As discussed below, the CIA failed to take even its usual steps to prevent publication of her name."
And further
(pg 31) Moreover, the government may have "publicly acknowledged or revealed" her intelligence relationship prior to publication of Novak's July 14, 2003 column. "The United States has 'revealed' an intelligence relationship if it has disclosed information which names, or leads directly to the identification of...a covert agent." S. Rep. 97-201, at 23. An article in The Washington Times indicated that Plame's identity was compromised twice prior to Novak's publication. If this information is accurate - another fact a court should explore - there is an absolute defense to prosecution. See 50 U.S.C. § 422(a).
And WHO was one of the media outlets who filed this brief? OMG, say it isn't so....CBS. The same ones who are now trotting Plame out to say she WAS covert.
What a crock, reveille. Really!!
It is a new lawsuit - but I think the point is the situation has already been settled - nm
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Berg Lawsuit Thrown Out - Case Closed
Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot
By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News
hinkelm@phillynews.com 215-854-2656
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.
He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.
U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.
Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.
They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.
Surrick agreed.
In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.
Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."
The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."
For example, Berg had claimed that Obama's nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)
Berg could not be reached for comment last night.
Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.
Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.
The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.
Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4.
I have an attorney.........
and they stay right on it. I belong to a cancer support group and it's like half of them get SSD and half of them don't. It seems to matter what state you live in.......also, age is a factor (this cancer is rare and the median age is 66 - I'll be 50 in May) - so, they look at it like they'll have to pay for me longer (right - cannot afford treatment right now, husband laid off). I'll fight to the very end - have to - otherwise my private insurance will stop paying.
Would rather the attorney prosper
I would rather have an attorney who is helping someone injured from a major corporation profit from his good work..to protect the little guy. I would rather not help the big corporations who are polluting our air and water, committing white collar crimes and most getting away with it and dont give a fig about the back bone of America, the working middle class.
Obama was their attorney at one time
So as their attorney he didn't know this was going on....like crap he didn't. He was part of the corruption. He continues to be heavily involved with them....lets not hide our heads in the sand.
Obama says he was ONLY an attorney for ACORN
He conveniently forgot to state the fact that he gave ACORN 800,000 dollars to ACORN.
He's a brilliant constitutional attorney....
No he's not, yes he is, no he's not, yes he is arguments will not win any elections.
It is at the advice of the office of the attorney general...
of the state of Alaska. It has turned into a political hatchet job. Just a scant few months ago, Hollis French (running the "investigative" committee) said that the governor's office was cooperating and no subpoenas were necessary. Then, when she was picked as the VP candidate and Obama folks descended on Alaska...all of a sudden the "investigation" grew (and the pictures of Obama and Hollis French and the other key democrat on this committee yucking it up surfaced). It has come to light that the investigator they hired is a personal friend of the man he is investigating. No bias there, right? Now that the attorney general is involved, politics can be removed from this and it can be brought to a result, whatever that result is.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Flew right past that basic right, eh?
Now son of a Democratic congressman being investigated for hacking her personal email. Wondering how THAT will turn out.
He was advised to do so by the attorney general's office...
of the state of Alaska. Actually, the letter came from the attorney general to the committee, stating that no one would be responding to the subpoenas pending their investigation. No one "scoffed" at subpoenas.
Who is this guy, a real attorney? Looking for what? Pretty scary! nm
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Former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania...
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States
This liberal is a retired attorney. Not in it for the money.
All she wants is for McCain campaign to denounce the death threats and tone down the rhetoric. Once done, suit withdrawn.
Yes it is. Any attorney with an ax to grind can file appeals
until he gets it through his thick skull that his claim is lame. Got any idea how long it take to wend your way through immigration courts these days? Count yourself lucky if the case has been resolved by the next election cycle.
Taxpayers will pay for Gonzales' private attorney
This is incredible.
Lawyers from the Justice Department's civil division often represent department employees who're sued in connection with their official actions. However, Gonzales' attorney recently revealed in court papers that the Justice Department had approved his request to pay private attorney's fees arising from the federal lawsuit.
Dan Metcalfe, a former high-ranking veteran Justice Department official who filed the suit on behalf of eight law students, called the department's decision to pay for a private attorney rather than rely on its civil division "exceptional."
"It undoubtedly will cost the taxpayers far more," he said.
According to a person with knowledge of the case, the Justice Department has imposed a limit of $200 an hour or $24,000 a month on attorneys' fees. Top Justice Department attorneys generally earn no more than $100 per hour. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.
Asked why Gonzales made the request, Gonzales spokesman Robert Bork Jr. said that his client "values the work that the department's civil attorneys do in all cases" but thinks that "private counsel can often be useful where (department) officials are sued in an individual capacity, even where the suit has no substantive merit."
Charles Miller, a Justice Department spokesman, said the department wouldn't have any comment on the reasons for the approval and wouldn't answer questions about the cost to taxpayers.
When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO
who provides campaign funds. Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines? Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills? Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head? Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble. God, I could go on and on here but I get tired. The nation is in such trouble. Serious serious trouble. There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics? did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference. lol.
Well I want you to know what fascism. And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks. Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself? There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota. You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice. Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened.
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!! Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake!
Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.
Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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boy are you about a week behind
yessss...the owners changed, much drama. Can't give you any specific info or it will be deleted. sorry.
u only eat once a week?!
I don't want to be rude, but how do u deal the headaches that come with that. I can one meal a day, but once a week, I think unless it the haulocaust or something......I would not be able to concentrate on my work and would rip somebody's head off. I don't know you're circumstances and certainly I pray if its that bad for you, its better. I am sorry if this is rude.
you eat once a week?~
doesn't make sense
Since when? Last week?
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About an hour a week.
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These just might be the best clips of the week.
Hardball with Paul Hackett and Van Taylor: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/22/paul-hackett-on-hardball-2/
And Ann Coulter on Hannity and Colmes: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/24/ann-coulter-gets-her-freak-on/
I saw it on MSNBC this week.
I had seen this commercial before, I believe on the Daily Show (Colbert Report maybe?), and I thought it was one of their jokes. I was amazed to find out it's real!
well, now. Just last week, a first time
child molester (first time caught, anyway) was given probated sentence; I am a lot more irate over that. The doctors will gladly help you get addicted, especially 20 years ago when they thought they could safely use cocaine themselves safely, and then when you are addicted, they drop you like a hot potato. My son was severely injured in a train wreck and after surgeries, he walked and walked and they offered him drugs and he told them, "you're not making an addict out of me; I know how this works". The doctor told him, "good for you". As for the rest of you, I am so glad that I have to ask for forgiveness, I only have to ask God and none of you.
I went to a party last week
to watch the acceptance speech by Obama. There was one individual at the party who kept talking endlessly and kept trying to re-take the floor after someone spoke about their interests. it was incredibly annoying. Ever had that happen in your life? conversation hog?
Seen last week, Wow, wow, shameful NM
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Voted last week, but..
wore an old pair of jeans and a white sweat shirt.
Is anyone else celebrating this week?
I wasn't sure where to put this post. I was talking about the situation of American workers on another board and I couldn't help feeling overjoyed about the change in leadership that is happening. This could go on the faith board since I have experienced a great renewal in faith after the election. I honestly didn't think it could happen, but it appears the people are finally awakening from the deep complacency that has allowed the corporations and the dollar to rule. I came to the politics board to find rampant homophobia. It seems my post might be out of place amidst all this fear and negativity. I'm not sure any joy would be tolerated well here; however, I am overjoyed. Is it no wonder the whole world is rejoicing? Hallelujah!
$10 a week-what a joke!
You mean our wonderful $10 a week extra that we are going to get in our paychecks that is going to change our spending habits and boost the economy? Does Obama really believe giving the american public $10 extra going to stimulate this economy? Really, how smart a man can he be if he thinks this is really going to help?
Ken dra, your taxes went up in just 1 week??
Honest to goodness, in a democratic controlled state. When did the democrats come back in. You make absolutely no sense with the reasoning. Your dear repubs just sent you and your home down the drain, if anything. Why, why do you continue to bash the democrats when they have been out of office for 8 YEARS!!! It seems to me like you really just bit off more than you can chew and now you are having to pay for it. I had 3 homes, 2 rentals and my own personal, paid taxes on all 3 and honey, I had no money problems with them. Next time do your math and maybe you wont get caught in a situation you have made for yourself to start with.
I didn't say that they went up in a week.
Every year before the following year, they send out the assessment and what the new year's taxes will be. I did not bite off more than I could chew. We are doing fine and have never made a late payment. Try not to assume things about me! Washington is democratic-controlled state. Chris Gregoire, the governor, is a Democrat and most of the rest of the officials are. Seattle is a far left city. Before you start telling me that I bit off more than I could chew and judging what I said, perhaps you should try to read it a little better. I did not say anything about Washington D.C. or federal government, I simply countered the OP that said her taxes and property values went up in a red state with the fact that my property taxes went up while my home value went down in a blue state. I am irritated that people who are behind on their house payments can refinance at a lower rate because they are about to lose their houses, while I have to just pay on time because I did the right thing. Finally, I really don't care how many houses you have. Good for you! I am glad you are doing so well and I am sure you are twice as old as I am.
This Week with George S. had
Sen. DeMint, Barney Fife, Fred Smith CEO of FedEX (?), and ? (didn't catch his name and am terrible with names anyway) about the stimulus package. Sen. DeMint is against the stimulus because it doesn't do much to help the American people. Fred Smith took a 20% cut in pay to help the company.
So far, Barney has been monopolizing the conversation and arguing with the others. I heard him say that the problem was not regulating the financial institutions....Wait. Wasn't he one that voted AGAINST regulation back when they wanted to put tighter controls on them? He also keeps talking about New Bedford. Isn't that his district? I know he's been fighting for the bank in his district. He seems to have a one track mind. What a jerk!!!....and that's why I call him Barney Fife. He has less sense than the real Barney Fife.
3/4 tank of gas each week. nm
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question about $13 a week
been away from the news for a few days, I obviously missed something here. What is this about $13 a week?
I have been praying about this all week-
end. I knew we were not going to let them take that good Captain ashore! I was horrified earlier today when I heard that it was the WH holding up a decision to do anything (should have known Obama thought he could *talk* to those pirates! or whatever his inexperience was costing us again).
I really don't care about the court of world opinion, and I am sure you are right. I am just thankful that the Captain was strong enough and brave enough to escape again and our Navy Seals and other military were able to rescue him without injury. I just hate that it took as long as it did to get him back safe.
And, yes, I am very curious to see how Obama and his elite followers are going to take credit for this one. Especially after apologizing for our arrogance all last week.
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