Have you ever lived in police state?
Posted By: ??? on 2006-06-08
In Reply to: The US is becoming a police state.sm - LVMT
Because if you had you'd definitely be able to see the VAST difference between a police state and the American state.
Also, your one-world government theory about the Bush's doesn't sync with your view that Bush is alienating the rest of the world, but I guess you think because Bush wants democracy for the world he somehow is planning to take over the world.
Wow, you are very steeped in conspiracy theory I'll give you that.
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The US is becoming a police state.sm
It is not full-fledged yet, but 95% there. There is a rush to incarcerate (1 in 136 Americans are in jails and prisons). National ID card by 2010, RFID chips, face scanners installed at high schools, those who disagree with government are called homegrown terrorists (another false flag) or traitors. It is very well known that both Bush presidents support the one world government (NWO). The USA no longer resembles the Constitutional Republic it is supposed to be. Land of the free is an illusion.
Chertoff says bird flu = police state.
It may not be foreign terrorists you have to fear at your door! - This week Chertoff announced that in the event of a widespread bird flu epidemic here it would not be the medical authorities or health departments who will be running the show - the Department of Homeland Security intends to take over and make our medical and quarantine decisions for us.
Apparently with the migrations of the world's birds about to begin, all the experts are saying that this bird flu could rapidly spread across the world and become a really serious threat.
What has the Bush Admin. done to prepare? They bought themselves 100,000 doses of Tamiflu. You, on the other hand, can wing it. There's no more left. Let's see, 100,000 doses ought to just about make sure his haves and have-more base will have plenty to go around.
Bush supporters in la la land will have no trouble believing those doses are meant for babies and the elderly, and of course somehow for themselves. For the rest of us, the word is: Garlic, goldenseal and echinacea, and stop filling the bird baths.
Fascist police state vs. socialism - great choices.nm
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Laws vary state-to-state
Many people were confined against their will just because someone wanted them "out of the way." These were normal people with no mental illness - that is why it is so difficult - don't blame the liberals. Blame your state.
CONFINING THE MENTALLY ILL
In the legal space between what a society should and should not do, taking action to restrict the liberty of people who are mentally ill sits in the grayest of gray areas.
Our notions about civil and constitutional rights flow from an assumption of "normalcy." Step beyond the boundaries and arrest and prison may legally follow. Short of that, government's ability to hold people against their will is severely and properly limited. Unusual behavior on the part of someone who is mentally ill is not illegal behavior. Freedom can't be snatched away on a whim, or on the thought that a person is hard to look at, hard to hear, hard to smell.
It was only a few decades ago that the promise of new medications and a change in attitude opened the doors of the mental hospitals and sent many patients into society. There, they would somehow "normalize" and join everyone else, supported by networks of out-patient facilities, job training, special living arrangements and regular, appropriate medication. But the transition has been imperfect, long and difficult.
In some parts of urban America there is little professional support for those with mental health problems. A new generation of drug and alcohol-fueled mental illness has come on the scene. People frequently end up on the street, un-medicated and exhibiting a full range of behaviors that are discomforting at the very least and threatening at their worst.
I have lived through this,
3 times. First the communists were coming to get us. We had to fight communism everywhere because they were going to take us all and make us reds. They could be here at any time. I remember safe shelter signs on buildings and personal bomb shelters and dictators claiming they would kill all our grandchildren. Nothing much happened. The second was Vietnam. Same thing, different year. We had to protect the world from communism again. We needed to fight them over there instead of over here.They were going to be on the beaches of California in a New York minute if we did not see this thing through. We got the same deal in 73 that we had on the table in 69 but because of arrogance, hubris, fear of the word failure, about 28,000 more soldiers died during that 4-year stint. We did not get anything more for the time, they died and nothing happened. Now its the terrorists. They can have a nuclear weapon here in 45 minutes. Saddam was in on 9/11. Blah, blah, blah. Conservatives have condemned this. I would hardly call Baker a liberal. Generals, people who actually know something about the geopolitics of the area, real Arab people, scholars, think its over and a done deal. I am not alone in this and you cannot blame the liberals for it either. The decider-in-chief apparently does not listen to anyone, especially not those of us on the left. I have been surprised he does not listen to those on his side. I still believe it was a mistake from the get go and I think we should leave yesterday.
About the crusades. Perhaps because you were not raised Catholic (assumption) you do not know how the crusades have been USED to justify, rationalize or discredit Catholics and those very same crusaders, fact or no. The crusades have been USED as a great Catholic basher for years. We heard it a lot then, still do.
I really don't know why you come to the liberal board and say the things you do. My head is not in the sand. I know all the facts you do about the **islamofacists** (one of the silliest words I think I have ever heard). I see things differently and your belittling me will not change anything ever.
Obama has lived an
exlemplary moral life. Only dirt anyone can sling is about other people whose paths he has crossed. Whoopie. John McCain an old, worn out horn dog who wants to be seen as a happily married church goer.
I have lived in different places and I have never...
experienced that kind of wait times. But I suppose there are all sorts of different experiences. What I do know is that research, great medical schools, etc., become nonexistent. We train most of the world's doctors here now. That will change under socialized medicine. Quality of care will go down. And if you don't pay for it in a premium you will pay for it in taxes. Obama cannot tax the "rich" enough to pay for it all. It is just not possible. And if he keeps taxing them, more jobs are going overseas, more businesses going overseas...if health care is so great other places, why do people come HERE for the "best" care? Oh well...there is no use beating my head against a brick wall. You will not know what I am talking about until you are in it...unfortunately for all of us...it will then be too late.
Sorry about Scottsdale, I have lived
and sorry if I offended you. My family still live in Scottsdale and Cave Creek. My dad lives in Troon North. We used to live at 64th and Thunderbird Road and the last 12 years lived near Desert Ridge/Mayo Hospital. Thank goodness we moved away. We had enough of the change, heat, and the people. Compared to where we live now, it is sooo much more nicer here and people much more friendly and courteous. Tired of trying to keep up with the Jones in Arizona. I liked Arizona 20 years ago, but now you can have it.
Sorry, I lived there for 28 years.
call it Snotsdale. Out of habit. By the way, you know the Kierland Commons where the Cheesecake Factory is? Scottsdale Road and Greenway Road. There is the hotel there, homes, and golf course. Well that is where the Scottsdale Dump used to be. Years ago, it was a desert and no one at Horizon High School would dare drive in that desert area or party out in the desert because of fear of toxic waste and now they built expensive homes, apartments, restaurants, shops and a golf course on the old Scottsdale Dump.
You must have lived in Atlanta in the 30s
because I live inside the perimeter and never, ever have I seen such as you talk about. Back when MLK was killed, waited in line like everyone else- no one got out of line to let me go first. Why do you tell such things when it is not true at all. The people here live and work alongside each other and thank goodness we have really been spared much of what has gone on in years past in other towns. Remember our motto- the city too busy to hate?
Actually, I lived in Augusta
But visiting Atlanta in 2006 and witnessed this.
His father lived with him...
And he felt different feelings than just wanting a male friend. He struggled with it from age 8 to 16 and finally came out. He is 19 years old and openly gay now and was a VIRGIN by the way the last I heard, yep he has relationships with guys with no "sodomizing" involved, amazing huh, that it can be about something other than sex. God forbid it just be that he actually has FEELINGS for the same sex.
Yes I do believe someone lived 800 years
Humans were not intended to die. Don't you get that? When God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, they were not meant to die. Sin is the reason we die. Sin corrupted the earth, and the people in it. That is where we get disease, famine, sickness, etc etc.
I don't have time to find the verses right now but either further in Genesis or one of the other first few books it talks about God shortening the life span because humans became corrupted and evil.
Evolution is just a theory. It has NEVER been proven.
You find it more reasonable to believe that we came from muck and a lightening bolt rather than that our Almighty God created us?
Do me a favor. Find an object in your house and smash it to a million pieces. Your remote for example. Now put it in a bag and shake it for a few minutes. Dump it out. Do you have a remote? No. You still have a bunch of junk. That's because someone had to CREATE that remote.
Evolution tells us that a bunch of rocks bounced around together, something exploded, and BAM there was life! Have you ever seen an explosion CREATE something?
And it does seem that all you want to do is prove that Christianity is a lie, since you would not discuss any further after someone gave you a reasonable answer:
"No, I will not discuss it further, not on this board and not on the Faith board.
The discussion stops right here."
So obviously you weren't concerned about having a conversation, you just wanted to state your opinions without any reasonable discussion.
Also, if we evolved from evolution, how did the first creature reproduce?
When I lived in town
I lived across the street from the girl scout leader that I mentioned. Do you think I was inconvenienced by the amount of vehicles there EVERY WEEK? You bet. Did the police come by and stop the little girls from meeting? No. And they never will, because no one feels threatened by the girl scouts.
I can't believe you are so vehemently denying what this is. You know dang well that if it was any other "not-for-profit" group, they would be left alone. For now.
You are saying along the same lines that if your daughter wanted to have a study group every week at her home with fifteen of her friends that you would go out and get a license for her to do so?
I actually saw a leprechaun when I lived in Ireland.
I was on the moors about 10 kilometres from Kilkenny, and there he was, at the opening of a burrow next to a large stone. He was only there for a wee bit of time, and then he vanished into the bracken.
I lived in Israel for many years
and what has happened has more to do with the upcoming election in Israel than with the US. Check it out.
His Indonesian father adopted him who lived ONLY
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You lived in a town of 5000 people
know who you dated? Or did you just think they didn't know? LOL
My hand's up. I've lived in Palestine.
Not Israel, Palestine. I first arrived in the region September 29, 1982 in Madaya, a village near the border of Syria and Lebanon. You may recall that was 16 days after the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. My husband was involved in the humanitarian aid efforts there.
In case you do not recall, let me remind you. In accordance with an internationally brokered peace deal, Palestinians had surrendered their weapons and were deported from Beirut, leaving their families under the protection of a peace keeping force. The Israeli army invaded Beirut, violating the peace treaty, and some 3000 defenseless Palestinian women and children were rounded up in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila and were systematically murdered in cold blood. Israel killed more than 30,000 civilians in Beirut in the 1982 invasion and a half million people were driven from their homes.
Tens of thousands of them landed in Madaya. I was there with my husband for 19 months and watched as they administered the programs to relocate those refugees. During that time, we traveled to Nablus, Ramallah and Rafah and spent about 3 months in each place.
So, no, this is not about being PC. Bleeding heart? YOU BET. FYI, I still lose sleep over what I saw there.
You must be very proud to have roots in the land where the rivers run red with the blood of Palestine.
Dubai is lovely. I lived there. I have no idea what you are talking about! sm
When were you there? It had to have been a long long time ago because you are not describing the Dubai I know!
My apology,..didn't realize you lived in Sweden...nm
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I read on the link I posted that he lived in the building -
it said he lived there and had every right to be there. I am not sure where it is.
Then Again, how many would have lived and suffered atrocities if Hitler's mom had had an abortion
I am not trying to be flip or funny here, because it is not, but I do not think we can use that particular logic...just say that ALL life is precious, whether a baby grows up to be Einstein, Ghandi, or Charles Manson, it either must ALL be in God's hands because He is Creator of All, or there is no logic. Just wonder how everyone feels about the ultimate sanctity of life when it comes to capital punishment....
Don't get me wrong, I amy be a Democrate, but I am moderate and I DO believe, in instances such as the rape/murder/brulity of children, serial killers, etc, that putting a monster like this to sleep, as you would a rabid animal who will kill and destroy otherwise, is the best thing we can do for our sick society, not perfectly okay, but the best that can be done to protect others. But whenever I see this particular reason NOT to abort, it makes it sound as though if a child were retarded or slow, or even a sociopath (not a psychopath), it would be okay, PLAYING GOD IS PLAYING GOD in either case. IMHO
Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.
Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.
Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:
..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'
This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?
I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:
'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'
(BTW, I filled in some commas).
I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?
I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.
Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.
Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.
Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:
..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'
This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?
I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:
'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'
(BTW, I filled in some commas).
I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?
I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.
Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.
Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.
Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:
..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'
This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?
I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:
'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'
(BTW, I filled in some commas).
I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?
I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.
Red state, blue state?
Written last Thanksgiving: "Some would argue that two different nations actually celebrated: upright, moral, traditional red America and the dissolute, liberal blue states clustered on the periphery of the heartland. The truth, however, is much more complicated and interesting than that.
Take two iconic states: Texas and Massachusetts. In some ways, they were the two states competing in the last election. In the world's imagination, you couldn't have two starker opposites. One is the homeplace of Harvard, gay marriage, high taxes, and social permissiveness. The other is Bush country, solidly Republican, traditional, and gun-toting. Massachusetts voted for Kerry over Bush 62 to 37 percent; Texas voted for Bush over Kerry 61 to 38 percent.
So ask yourself a simple question: which state has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election, with Massachusetts' gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state decadence and moral decay. But in actual fact, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2.4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants. Texas - which until recently made private gay sex a criminal offence - has a divorce rate of 4.1. A fluke? Not at all. The states with the highest divorce rates in the U.S. are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. And the states with the lowest divorce rates are: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont. Every single one of the high divorce rate states went for Bush. Every single one of the low divorce rate states went for Kerry. The Bible Belt divorce rate, in fact, is roughly 50 percent higher than the national average.
Some of this discrepancy can be accounted for by the fact that couples tend to marry younger in the Bible Belt - and many clearly don't have the maturity to know what they're getting into. There's some correlation too between rates of college education and stable marriages, with the Bible Belt lagging a highly educated state like Massachusetts. But the irony still holds. Those parts of America that most fiercely uphold what they believe are traditional values are not those parts where traditional values are healthiest. Hypocrisy? Perhaps. A more insightful explanation is that these socially troubled communities cling onto absolutes in the abstract because they cannot live up to them in practice.
But doesn't being born again help bring down divorce rates? Jesus, after all, was mum on the subject of homosexuality, but was very clear about divorce, declaring it a sin unless adultery was involved. A recent study, however, found no measurable difference in divorce rates between those who are "born again" and those who are not. 29 percent of Baptists have been divorced, compared to 21 percent of Catholics. Moreover, a staggering 23 percent of married born-agains have been divorced twice or more. Teen births? Again, the contrast is striking. In a state like Texas, where the religious right is extremely strong and the rhetoric against teenage sex is gale-force strong, the teen births as a percentage of all births is 16.1 percent. In liberal, secular, gay-friendly Massachusetts, it's 7.4, almost half. Marriage itself is less popular in Texas than in Massachusetts. In Texas, the percent of people unmarried is 32.4 percent; in Massachusetts, it's 26.8 percent. So even with a higher marriage rate, Massachusetts manages a divorce rate almost half of its "conservative" rival.
Or take abortion. America is one of the few Western countries where the legality of abortion is still ferociously disputed. It's a country where the religious right is arguably the strongest single voting bloc, and in which abortion is a constant feature of cultural politics. Compare it to a country like Holland, perhaps the epitome of socially liberal, relativist liberalism. So which country has the highest rate of abortion? It's not even close. America has an abortion rate of 21 abortions per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. Holland has a rate of 6.8. Americans, in other words, have three times as many abortions as the Dutch. Remind me again: which country is the most socially conservative?
Even a cursory look at the leading members of the forces of social conservatism in America reveals the same pattern. The top conservative talk-radio host, Rush Limbaugh, has had three divorces and an addiction to pain-killers. The most popular conservative television personality, Bill O'Reilly, just settled a sex harassment suit that indicated a highly active adulterous sex life. Bill Bennett, the guru of the social right, was for many years a gambling addict. Karl Rove's chief outreach manager to conservative Catholics for the last four years, Deal Hudson, also turned out to be a man with a history of sexual harassment. Bob Barr, the conservative Georgian congressman who wrote the "Defense of Marriage Act," has had three wives so far. The states which register the highest ratings for the hot new television show, "Desperate Housewives," are all Bush-states.
The complicated truth is that America truly is a divided and conflicted country. But it's a grotesque exaggeration to say that the split is geographical, or correlated with blue and red states. Many of America's biggest "sinners" are those most intent on upholding virtue. In fact, it may be partly because they know sin so close-up that they want to prevent its occurrence among others. And some of those states which have the most liberal legal climate - the Northeast and parts of the upper MidWest - are also, in practice, among the most socially conservative. To ascribe all this to "hypocrisy" seems to me too crude an explanation. America is simply a far more complicated and diverse place than crude red and blue divisions can explain.
I don't know what state you live in but in my state
they are adding police and only in the big cities do they have paid firemen. The rest are volunteers.
I look at it this way: If a state can't stay in the black, then they have to cut spending some place that wouldn't jeopardize the safety of the citizens. Threats of cutting essential services like Barney Fife stated today are unjustified. Cut the non-essential services first.
Our governor talks about cutting back on services, laying off government workers, which I think is a good idea because government is too big anyway, but then he turns around and spends more money on non-essential items. Doesn't make sense.
One of the police chiefs
of one of the parishes in LA said that civilian water management people and civilian engineers etc. were being recruited to come there because the National Guard was overwhelmed in size and in capability. He said some had just come for 2 or 3 missions in Iraq or Afghanistan and were exhausted. I'm sorry I did not get his name. I will be more vigilant next time so if you want to tell someone they are alledging something that is untrue you'll get the right person. I's just the messenger. Since I am not there I have no idea how many National Guard are there, on call, whatever, but I still believe they are needed here more than there.
We are not world police
So Saddam was a bad person..so what..that means we are supposed to sacrifice our hard earned taxes to pay for a war in Iraq? That means we are supposed to sacrifice our brave military to invade a nonthreatening country? There are many places in this old tired world where people are being brutalized..It is not our responsibility to be the world police, it is not our place to save the world from itself. If Iraq was a threat to America, that would have been a different story. This invasion and control of a Middle Eastern country was thought up in the early 1990s by Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz. On the other hand, we are no better than Saddam now..We have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, destroyed an ancient country, we cant even give them full time electricity or fresh water or safe secure homes and jobs. The war was wrong, the situation in Iraq is worse than when Saddam ruled. Iraq was better off with Saddam in power. However, keep trying to justify the war..It provides me a chuckle daily when I see the republican spinmeisters come up with a different reason for invasion almost daily. Bush says Iraq will be a comma in the history books..I disagree, Bush will be looked upon as a warmonger who got it so wrong, a failed presidency
Not our job to police the world...
Clinton - Kosovo. Clinton - Somalia. People died there too. If we had stayed in Somalia and nipped AL Qaeda in the bud there...if Clinton had accepted bin Laden from the Sudan...if, if, if. Have you read the Iraq Liberation bill? The idea for invading Iraq to topple saddam was born during Clinton's term...Bush did not invent it. All the same people who protest it now voted it into law. How would you expect anyone to take you seriously? It is never the liberal's fault. That is the one thread that remains true.
Yes, it is a matter of CHOICE. Why, though, is it only YOUR choice?
You danced around it, but it is very true...because there were some botched abortions in the 40's and 50's, we now have abortion on demand, our own genocide to the tune of 1.2 million a year, and somehow this is acceptable to you in the name of CHOICE. TO some of us, it isn't. You get choice, we don't. You need to change the name of your party, because it has little to do with democracy. If abortion was put to a vote of the people it would fail. Precisely why your party will not allow that to happen.
Because of this war we have ignited the fires of extremists and terrorists? Where were you for the first world trade center bombing? Where were you for Khobar Towers...the USS Cole, the african embassies? Somalia when your soliders bodies were dragged through the streets? They have been ignited for years, but were ignored for 8 of those years by Bill Clinton!
You enable abortion in the name of choice...you advocate it. If it went to ballot, you would vote for it. That is advocating it, no matter how you try to parse words.
Why is it easier to get incensed about war than about abortion? Do you think those infants want to be killed? Do they not have a right to life? Where is their choice?
Why the spelling police have shown up! sm
I make typos all the time and so does everyone else.
Call off the typo police.
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spoken by the grammar police.
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Your point? Are you the spell police? nm
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Oh no...the swearing police are back.
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And who appointed you the "Posting Police?" sm
Everybody is entitled to an opinion just as you are. You should be able to get a pretty good idea of what the posts will say from the subject line. If you are so thin-skinned that you have to take offense at somebody elses posting, then either leave the board and go elsewhere or just don't open the thread. Easy as that.
Humor police in the house....(sm)
The intent of the post was not to compare an embryo to a turkey, but rather simply a joke saying that she would take up one cause but not the other. If you read the posts below you might understand the joke.
However, since you mentioned it, I'm sure I could make that comparrison. Our ideas of when life begins are obviously not the same.
Police Memorial Week
Still another example of a President to be ashamed of. He is the First President to show such disrespect!
Hello everyone,
May 10-16 was Police Memorial Week. It is a week to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice while serving as a law enforcement officer in the United States. The week is filled with various events to honor fallen police officers and their families.To provide you with Just a little background, May 15 was established by President John Kennedy as "Peace Officers Memorial Day" and the calendar week of May 15 is known as "Police Week" according to presidential proclamation 537.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24099
The point of this email is to inform you of something I believe everyone should be aware of. President Barrack Obama did not attend this event. This may seem insignificant, but every year for at the past 21 years the president, regardless of political affiliation, has given a speech on May 15 on the steps of the U.S. capitol to the family members of fallen hero's.
I am sure the president has more pressing issues to focus on than attending a ceremony for the widows, parents, and children of fallen police officers. It is understandable he may have needed to miss the ceremony for a more urgent matter and I say that with all seriousness. But, at the time of the ceremony where do you think Barrack Obama was? He was giving a tour of the White House to the 2008 world series champion Philadelphia Phillie's. I know the Phillie's are important and all, but the man could not take 30 minutes out of his day to take a short car ride 10 minutes down Pennsylvania Ave. to the Capitol, give a 10 minute speech and then drive back to the Whitehouse?
This is not a political issue and has nothing to do with being a democrat, republican, green party, independent, or whatever other political affiliation you may have chosen. This is about honoring fallen officers and paying your respects. It is obvious we know where Barrack Obama stands when it comes to supporting your local, state, and federal law enforcement officers.
I feel everyone should know what occurred on May 15, 2009. You will probably not hear this in the mainstream media so I would encourage you to share this with anyone and everyone you want.
Police Memorial Week
Still another example of a President to be ashamed of. He is the First President to show such disrespect!
Hello everyone,
May 10-16 was Police Memorial Week. It is a week to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice while serving as a law enforcement officer in the United States. The week is filled with various events to honor fallen police officers and their families.To provide you with Just a little background, May 15 was established by President John Kennedy as "Peace Officers Memorial Day" and the calendar week of May 15 is known as "Police Week" according to presidential proclamation 537.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24099
The point of this email is to inform you of something I believe everyone should be aware of. President Barrack Obama did not attend this event. This may seem insignificant, but every year for at the past 21 years the president, regardless of political affiliation, has given a speech on May 15 on the steps of the U.S. capitol to the family members of fallen hero's.
I am sure the president has more pressing issues to focus on than attending a ceremony for the widows, parents, and children of fallen police officers. It is understandable he may have needed to miss the ceremony for a more urgent matter and I say that with all seriousness. But, at the time of the ceremony where do you think Barrack Obama was? He was giving a tour of the White House to the 2008 world series champion Philadelphia Phillie's. I know the Phillie's are important and all, but the man could not take 30 minutes out of his day to take a short car ride 10 minutes down Pennsylvania Ave. to the Capitol, give a 10 minute speech and then drive back to the Whitehouse?
This is not a political issue and has nothing to do with being a democrat, republican, green party, independent, or whatever other political affiliation you may have chosen. This is about honoring fallen officers and paying your respects. It is obvious we know where Barrack Obama stands when it comes to supporting your local, state, and federal law enforcement officers.
I feel everyone should know what occurred on May 15, 2009. You will probably not hear this in the mainstream media so I would encourage you to share this with anyone and everyone you want.
Aha! SPELLING POLICE starts again!
This is a sign that you feel in the weaker position. It was a TYPO, o.k.!
Everone who starts with grammar and spelling police, insults and bashing admits that he has been cornered and his weakness shows.
Playing grammar- and spelling-police is NOT tolerated on this Forum, read the rules of this forum!
Got it!
Iraq: Insurgents infiltrate police
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Insurgents have infiltrated Iraq's security forces, a senior Iraqi official said, as the fallout continued over British forces' use of armed vehicles to smash their way into a police station to rescue two undercover soldiers.
The British government said it would not pull troops out of Iraq after the fury over the controversial rescue of two special forces soldiers arrested in Basra and allegedly handed over to local militia.
Two Iraqis died in the violence, Reuters reported.
Iraq's National Security Adviser, Dr Mouwafak al-Rubaie, said he did not know how far security forces had been undermined by insurgents.
He told the BBC: Our Iraqi security forces in general, police in particular, in many parts of Iraq, I have to admit, have been penetrated by some of the insurgents, some of the terrorists as well.
I can't deny this. We are putting in place a very scrupulous, very meticulous vetting procedure in the process of recruiting a new batch of police and Iraqi army, which will, if you like, clean our security forces as well as stop any penetration in future from the insurgents and terrorists.
Al-Rubaie added: I can't give you a percentage of the extent of the penetration, but I have to admit that the Iraqi security forces are penetrated, to what extent I don't know.
Meanwhile U.S. officials revealed that nine Americans, including five soldiers, were killed by bombs in Iraq during Monday and Tuesday.
Four troops, assigned to the 2nd Marine Division, were killed Monday in Ramadi, the U.S. military said. The deaths brought to 1,904 the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq. (Full story)
In Basra Wednesday the Iraqi Ministry of the Interior said it was looking into what led to UK armored fighting vehicles bulldozing the wall of a Basra police station jail in a bid to free the special forces soldiers.
Inside, troops discovered that the two men had been handed over to the militia by Iraqi police and freed them.
The men's capture Monday came just a day after British forces in Basra arrested two leading members of the outlawed Mahdi Army which is loyal to firebrand cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and is widely believed to have heavily infiltrated the local Iraqi police, the UK's Press Association reported.
The two arrested men from the Mahdi Army were the group's Basra area commander, Sheikh Ahmad Majid al-Fartusi, and his aide Sajjat al-Basri, PA said.
According to PA, the two British men detained by police were members of the Special Air Service and appeared to have been quickly handed over to militiamen by police.
The mission to rescue them, which was condemned by many Iraqis, was launched amid fears they could face summary execution, PA said.
One Iraqi member of parliament said that following the arrest of the SAS men, the Mahdi Army had tried to take them hostage to exchange them for its two leaders.
Four tanks invaded the area. A tank cannon struck a room where a policeman was praying, policeman Abbas Hassan told Reuters.
Standing next to mangled cars outside the police station and jail that he said were crushed by British military vehicles, he added: This is terrorism. All we had was rifles.
A spokesman for Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari said the British operation against the jail had been a very unfortunate development but his office later released a statement saying there was no crisis in relations with the British.
Iraqi policemen at the jail Tuesday surveyed a mass of rubble, broken plywood and air conditioning units where their perimeter wall and a number of prefabricated structures once stood.
A number of flattened cars appeared to have been run over by British Warrior armored fighting vehicles.
The two special forces soldiers, who were travelling undercover, were arrested after allegedly becoming involved in a firefight with Iraqi police at a checkpoint. Iraqi officials claimed they had shot dead a local policeman and wounded at least one other.
The British soldiers are believed to have feared the men were really insurgents dressed in police uniforms, PA said.
British Defence Secretary John Reid defended the subsequent action by British troops against the Jamiat police station jail, saying it was absolutely right.
We do not have designs to stay (in Iraq) as an occupying imperial power. Nor are we going to cut and run because of terrorists, Reid was quoted as saying by the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
The paper said that Reid and British defense chiefs would meet Iraqi PM al-Jaafari Wednesday in London to discuss security issues.
In dramatic scenes outside the jail Monday, British troops were confronted by an angry mob, hundreds strong, throwing stones and petrol bombs and several soldiers suffered minor injuries.
After they discovered the two SAS men were not in the jail, Iraqi police were confronted with a 30mm cannon and revealed they had been given to the militia.
Brigadier John Lorimer, commanding officer of 12 Mechanised Brigade in Basra, said: We will be following up with the authorities in Basra why the soldiers were not immediately handed over to the multinational forces as Iraqi law shows that they should have been.
It is of deep concern that British soldiers held by the police should then end up being held by militia, he added.
You need some serious education on fascist police states
if you are referring to the U.S. Now, parts of France on the other hand has had to become a police state at times due to the riots against almighty socialism. Irony is a fun thing to watch play out sometimes and also how people think the grass is greener anywhere but where they are.
ROFL. Enter the typo police....
at least you found a different subject to attack on. Still snide, but nevertheless...attack, attack, attack. I look forward to your report on all the other posts and then posting our QA scores. Hop to it! LOL. geezzzzz.
St. Paul Police Protest the Press
Be careful of your constitutional rights - they are rapidly disappearing.
http://www.truthout.org/article/st-pauls-police-protest-press
hope there are no spelling police today...
good thing I am not running for president, huh? But then, hmmm, maybe I could too. Seems like just anybody these days can do it.
Who made you the spell police? - see message
You don't have anything to say cos you know she's right so you come back with a "you spelled a word wrong"?????
We've been told over and over and over....leave your QAing out of this board.
Spelling police not allowed on this board.
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